Aurora Justicia Hedges Her Bets at the Here A Watchman-There A Watchman-Everywhere A Watchman Conference

Just when you thought it could not get any more bizarre in the Christian Alternative Media Universe, last night  The Hagmann Report radio show presented us with a News and Conference Recap, with Doug and Joe Hagmann discussing their troubles with the TSA at the airport, the Hotel Lockdown because of terrorist threats against the speakers, and the Saturday night incident when the “Feds” removed an attendee from the Hear The Watchman conference.

Doug Hagmann reassured his listeners that “I don’t like drama”, but then tells the dramatic story of some individual who had been on his show once, who had called up the Grapevine police with a credible threat that involved the speakers. You might want to listen to the whole show as some of this story is told at the start, interrupted, and then later continued after the first hour.  Apparently the police erected a surveillance tower with tinted windows which stood 25 feet high off the ground at the hotel, and they would not let Hagmann out of the hotel.

And it seems that the attendees were not told the true story, because they were not the targets.  However, if you were the one who might get caught in the crosshairs of a maniac, would you not want to know about this, as you sat listening to the speakers?  I am getting the idea that something is going on behind the scenes where Hagmann and Quayle (Timothy Alberino story) are getting nervous, and trying to hedge their bets by presenting the public with strange stories of death threats.  Are they trying to set someone up?  Are they trying to distract our attention from some behind-the-scenes matter which involves them?  What is this, some kind of Curse of the Pink Panther movie?pink panther 2

Well, we can write fiction based on fact too, you know.  We are calling our little drama  Aurora Justicia Hedges Her Bets at the Here A Watchman-There A Watchman-Everywhere A Watchman Conference

(Music Playing: The Hedgeman Premier Investigative Duet is singing Marvin Gaye’s I Heard It Through The Grapevine over and over.  Finally, a disembodied voice sounding somewhat like the  Hawk breaks in to tell the listeners that Doug and Joe Hedgeman will come on the air, just as soon as they get through their TSA interrogation at the Eeerie, Pennsylvania airport.)

Doug Hedgeman: (Breathless)  Hello folks, welcome to this special episode of the Hedgeman and Hedgeman Report, where we are coming to you alive from the radio and television studios here in Northwest Pennsylvania.  I’m Doug Hedgeman at the helm with fellow investigator and researcher, my son Joe Hedgeman.  We are the Hedgeman and Hedgeman Report; what I like to think of as the premier father and son investigative reporting team.  And folks, what we’re preparing tonight is fresh from Grapevine, Texas, as we grant an exclusive interview with Aurora Justicia who unlike us, was able to break through the airport lines and actually board a plane to the Here A Watchman-There A Watchman -Everywhere A Watchman Conference.    Joe, bring Aurora on, if you can figure it out.

Joe Hedgeman:  We have on the line Aurora Justicia, Chief Reporter for OFF THE WALL NEWS.  Hello Aurora, there are  many rumors  coming from the Grapevine on the Here A Watchman-There A Watchman-Everywhere A Watchman Conference.  Since you were actually able to attend, and we were detained for a week at the airport here in Pennsylvania, give us the real scoop on this much anticipated event.

Aurora Justicia:  Well first of all, let me apologize for causing your father a little trouble.  When I heard that the TSA agents were holding up Doug because of a strange little credit card thing in his wallet which looked like a knife, I immediately called the TSA and told them that they were making a mistake.  I explained that Doug Hedgeman was a Blood Splatter Expert, and before I could continue,  they jumped on this little fact, and concluded without merit I might add, that he had just killed someone. Of course then they discovered that he was carrying 150 copies of his new book, Stained By Blood and then when he started to speak expletives and tell them that he was an anointed Watchman for God, trust me folks, it went downhill from there.  Never call a TSA agent a nitwit, or you will find yourself sleeping at the airport for a week.

Joe:  I would have gone on ahead of my Dad, except that I had a few problems of my own.  It seems that the TSA were unaware that a married woman might possibly have a maiden name, and they just assumed that all of the documentation that we brought was forged, because who brings real documents to an airport?

Aurora:  Mike the Cur, the conference organizer has reported that this conference was a real success.  But I am here to testify that he is lying and I can prove it.  Prior to the attendees showing up, Mike the Cur presented us with a video boasting that Jesus had shown up and the healing had already begun.  Then later, he claimed Satan showed up and messed up their live streaming  so that they were forced to have to offer those folks who had paid for this service, free streaming for 30 days. I am not Satan no matter what this man claims. pink panther 1

All I did was flirt with those cute techy guys and had each of them hold the end of two wires.  How was I to know that when I plugged the line into the electrical outlet that they were in fact standing too close to each other, creating an Electrical Arcing Effect, which shorted out all of their equipment? Who do you think I am, Tesla?   I tried to apologize, but when someone goes on international radio and YouTube calling me Satan, the end is near, as far as I am concerned.

Joe:  Uhhh, Dad, why are you pounding your fist on your keyboard at 1,000 words a minute?

Doug:  That that that itty bitty blogger is in the chatroom causing trouble.  I’ll fix her!!!  The latest intel I got on her says that she can only type 35 words per minute with eight errors.  That job she got at the bank years ago was because she was wearing a mini skirt. Well, I told her off.  I said TYPE THIS if you can, you you Holier Than Thou Christian!!!  Do you know what?  She could not keep up with me.  From now we must speed up our conversation on the radio in order to outpace her transcription skills.  Got that Quayle?  Got that Joe?

Aurora:  Is that why Steve Quayle cancelled his appearance due to unforeseen circumstances this week on the Jim Bakker show?  Someone tipped off Jacquelyn Weaver about that show, so she pulled out her transcription pad, and was just reviewing her miniskirts in her closet, when the message came that the gig was up and Steve (I AM NEVER WRONG) Quayle had cancelled.  It would appear that he has hacked into Jacquelyn Weaver’s email account, and now is under the delusion that he knows what she is thinking (as if any man could figure her out).    By the way, are the rumors true that he is going to write a book like Jim Bakker, called I WAS WRONG (about the Nephilim),but you will never be able to prove it?

Doug: (Gritting his teeth)   I know this:  Jacquelyn Weaver will never be able to prove anything.  The Nephilim are all around me, threats of death, War is raging, Christian against Christian.   Regardless of what you say Aurora, my fearful, I mean ah ah ah fearless ah presence was felt at the conference, trust me. I still have disguises from my FBI Operative days, and my double went to this conference dressed as a Paramedic.

Doug Hedgeman seems unduly frustrated about something or someone

Doug Hedgeman seems unduly frustrated about something or someone

I can disclose now that the person calling himself Doug at the conference was in fact Anthony Patch with a wig on.    Someone who was on this show once before, had called the police and had said that something terrible was going to happen to the speakers. And immediately I knew they were targeting me.  Me!  Why Me?  I’m a nice guy, honest.  Trust me, I was in utter fear for my life and was afraid that I would be found hiding out at the Eerie Pennsylvania airport.

Why would any one want to hurt little ol’ me?  Why, did you know that an elderly woman came up to my double at the conference, saying she hated my stuttering on the radio?  But then she gave me a big hug and said, “I Love You Anyway”. Anthony Patch was so taken back by this that he started stuttering, especially when she bought all 150 copies of my book.  Mom always comes through for me no matter what.  Mom if you can hear this, I love you too!!!  Anthony Patch sold only 8 copies of his book and six of those were to his mother.  I now know what it feels like to be in a combat war zone.

Aurora:  I was on your show once. And you can trust me on this,  I didn’t make that phone call. I wonder who it was… Hmmmm, so Doug, just who are you trying to set up this time?  Got any Grapevine police department “official” reports yet?  Just because you are going to post some photos online, means nothing as far as proof goes.    I understand there is a good selection of photos on the net which show 25 foot tall Police Surveillance Towers.  Just ask Dave Hodges.

Joe: Sorry Aurora, Dad seems to be reverting a little, he just slipped into another detective mode which we call  The Boss of Inspector Clouseau in The Pink Panther movies.  He seems to think that Jacquelyn Weaver has become Inspector Clouseau or something.  Dad, calm down.  She can’t hurt you.  She is in the chat room, which we control. No one is smarter than you Dad; you are the premier father investigator.  Breathe out slowly and repeat after me 100 times.  I AM the Premier Father Investigator and no one can touch me through the radio waves (except of course, Aurora Justicia who knows how to plug in to such things).  Are you feeling better now?  Good (swinging a gold watch in front of his father’s face) you are getting sleeeepy.

Aurora:  Well, let’s have a Reality Check for your father’s sake.  The goal of this conference organizer was to have 1,000 attendees.  You and your Dad said that 200 people were baptized, or rebaptized again and again, and that 200 people had sent you emails telling you what a wonderful conference this was. That leaves 800 persons unaccounted for.    I personally counted 798 police, intel, recon, CIA and NSA  agents.  There were two reporters.  Your Dad claimed that Mike the Cur lost money when he had to hire security because of what was going down with terrorist threats and all.  Yet your Dad last night issued a terrorist threat himself on air.  He declared that he would never fly again and said that he hoped the airlines would shut down.  Is that not a slightly veiled terroristic threat itself?

Joe: Uhhhhh (trying to change the subject)….say Aurora, just how did you get in for free?

Aurora:  I used two 50% off coupons, like those 798 other intel and recon folks, and explained very nicely to the ticket taker that one coupon was for my left side, and the other for my right side. Once the 25 foot surveillance tower was erected, I knew something was up. So immediately all 798 men standing around  me offered to be my personal body guard. Who cares that the threat was against the speakers and not the attendees?

I reminded the conference organizers that the terrorist might not be a good shot, so I demanded a refund and they handed me $100 in cash.  I should have known at that point, that someone was trying to entrap me with that $100.  It had the fingerprints of that one man who actually had paid to come to the conference and was carted away by the Feds,  never to be seen again. Now they were claiming that I was an accomplice.  As your father said, they suspected this man because he paid in cash (with no coupons!) for his ticket and because he would not let anyone see what was in his “book” or whatever he was holding.  And then on top of that,  they said it was very suspicious that this guy did not applaud when Russ Dizdar spoke.  Why that represents War and Division in the body of Christ!!

Joe:  The Hotel was on lockdown.  The Speakers were too terrified to Saddle for Battle.  They were concerned about Christian against Christian at the All-You Can-Eat Buffet.  This was worse than Viet Nam or Afghanistan.  No one had thought to bring any MREs. And to think we had left Steve Quayle to guard all of our gold and silver supplies.  This came close to being a Red Screen situation.

Aurora: Well,  I have to agree with your Dad on one thing.  He said that at the conference NOTHING HAPPENED.  Wow, he told the truth for once.

Joe: Are you coming to the next conference in September in Tennessee? This one turned out to be more exciting than we had ever expected.

Aurora:  Sure why not.  At that conference I will remind everyone that as Doug Hedgeman said,  NOTHING HAPPENED at this conference. But now your father has said  that in the secret back room of the conference all the speakers said that it’s gonna get hot this summer!!!!!  And that in his opinion WAR HAS BEGUN,   CHRISTIAN AGAINST CHRISTIAN.

He seems to be hedging his bets that he can SET SOMEONE UP to take a fall, so that all the OFF THE WALL reporters will be distracted from seeing what is really going on.   Remember that 25 foot erected Sheriff’s tower with tinted windows?  Even if there are real bona fide police reports on this one, we won’t see them.  You know why?  It would set a precedence!  And then we might demand to see all those other police reports we have been asking to see, for the last few years.

Joe:  Uhhhh, thanks Aurora.  What kind of poker should I tell my Dad  you are playing here?

Aurora:  Mississippi Mud, of course.   As Edward Humes, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of that true crime novel by the same name, said,  “Mississippi Mud is that purest form of poker, a game in which the cards become irrelevant and the ability to bluff and betray fellow players reaps the greatest reward. The name is synonymous with a certain brand of corruption in the Magnolia State, undisguised and unashamed.  By either definition, lying is an art form in Mississippi Mud, morality a fool’s distraction.”

You can’t fool us hicks down here.  We know what is going on with all of these so-called death threats.


The King of Jousters, John B. Wells and his ARK Knight-errant, Sir Douglas Hagmann Give A Private Exhibition of their Prowess

One of the Hear The Watchmen conference speakers is John B. Wells of Caravan To, who formerly was the Saturday host on Coast to Coast john b wells caravan to midnight logoOn his home page he is offering a $50 off coupon on the upcoming March, Dallas conference, plus a chance to win a drawing for a dinner for two with JohnB and crew.

Looking over his website, I had been unaware before today, that he sold heirloom seeds, packaged food, electronic filters, a Soladey tooth brush, water filtration, radiation detection, a radio frequency detection meter and shield, shirts, hats, cups, a mousepad, a keychain, stickers and ten books. After becoming used to the same old repeat guests on the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show, I was impressed with the number of different guests which John B. Wells has interviewed.  However, to listen, one must become a subscriber at the rate of $5 per month.

John B. Wells was the Saturday host for Coast to Coast prior to setting up his own website Caravan To Midnight

John B. Wells was the Saturday host for Coast to Coast prior to setting up his own website Caravan To Midnight

One of the interesting features of the Our Guests Page of Caravan To Midnight is that currently 62 men and women on this extensive list have been knighted and given the title of Sir or Dame.john b wells ark knight  A  shield reading ARK KNIGHT with two crossed swords and the Caravan To Midnight logo is displayed to the right of the recipient’s short biography.  Of interest to us in regard to the Hear The Watchmen conference is that in the beginning, the speaker roster included John B. Wells and four of his knights: Nathan Leal, Dr. Ted Broer, Doug Hagmann and L. A. Marzulli.

As we learned later, Nathan Leal went public with a controversy he had with Dr. Ted Broer, who had appeared on the Hagmann Report radio show, regarding his perverting of the gospel by New Age ideas.  Then these two men were removed from the roster of speakers, causing a rift between the supporters of Leal with the conference organizers and Hagmann, Lankford and Quayle.  Pastor David Lankford, who has not been knighted by John B. Wells,  then discussed the Leal matter on the Hagmann Report with Sir Steve Quayle, who is an ARK Knight.  Presently the ARK Knights which are speaking at the March Dallas conference are Doug Hagmann, L. A. Marzulli, and Josh Tolley.  Guests on the John B. Wells show which did not make knighthood include Paul McGuire, Mike and Jeanie Moore, Joe Hagmann, Michael Boldea, Jr., Pastor David Lankford, Russ Dizdar, Billy Crone, Gregg Jackson and Sheila Zilinsky.  However several in this group did speak in a Roundtable Discussion led by Sheila Zilinsky, explaining their “vision” of what the up-coming conference would entail.john b wells leal ark knight (2)john b wells broer ark knight (2)john b wells hagmann ark knight (2)

(As an aside, readers of this blog may find it interesting that Timonthy Alberino, Stan Deyo, Anthony Patch, and Steve Quayle are ARK Knights; whereas, Tom Horn, Chris Putnam, Jonathan Cahn, John Little, Larry Nichols, Rick Wiles, Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers, and John W. Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute are not.)

On February 3, 2016 John B. Wells celebrated his second anniversary of his Caravan To Midnight program, by bringing on Sir Douglas Hagmann as his first guest.  At the 14:34 mark of this audio, they discuss the Hear The Watchmen Conference.

John B. Wells:  Doug, I want to get into something that may be a little bit uncomfortable and I ah defer to you ah by saying that.  I mean, you’re the last guy I’d ambush with something on this but I gotta tell you, I’ve got some concerns over the Hear The Watchmen conference.  I want to discuss them with you.

Doug Hagmann:  Sure.

JBW:  How many names does Brother Mike have, exactly?

DH:  Well, to my knowledge there is only one.

JBW:  That is what I’ve been thinking.  But he seems to have more than one.

DH:  Well, are you I mean, if you’re talking about internet presence or handles or whatever you know, I don’t know..I mean I’ve got Hagmann PI for example for Skype and for other things. But in terms of legal names, I’ve only heard him use one and seen him use one, uhmm correct me if I’m wrong.

JBW:  Well, you know I’m going to be there no matter what, unless I get kicked off the program which is, that remains to be seen, but here’s the thing.


JBW:  I know that Nathan Leal was cross with Ted Broer.

DH:  Right.

JBW:  And look, this is a closed deal.  I am not talking with anyone who is not aware of this.  We got a lot of people that are coming to Hear The Watchmen and here’s the thing and I’m saying this.  I’m not trying to be like Mr. Lilywhite here, but it doesn’t matter to me if I have one member of the Caravan, and I’m going to be honest with them and I don’t want them walking into anything.  I don’t want them to be disappointed, I don’t want to wonder ah, ah, I don’t want them to question the validity, the integrity, the veracity, of what we are trying to do here.  This is effectively a spiritual revival.  Now we are not going to play with snakes or any of that.  I mean that’s what this is.  And then Nathan took exception to Ted’s combining of what he perceived to be um what parthianism or something like this- pantheism- that’s the word I’m looking for, and uh by the time it’s all over with, Nathan is gone.  Then I saw this letter from John Little.

DH:  Right.

JBW:  Then I watched the interview with Pastor Lankford and Stephen Quayle.  I don’t know Lankford, but I know Quayle well enough and ah they didn’t use his name but it’s pretty obvious that they were talking about Nathan Leel, or Leal, so here’s the thing. Has anybody, has anybody thought that the enemy Lucifer, Satan, Beelzebub, or whatever, he’s got a bunch of names too.  Has it occurred to anybody that the enemy would like to destroy this?  Has it occurred to anybody that the enemy which exists as surely as the Holy Spirit, has it occurred to anybody that we should as Little pointed out in his article, go to the aid of our brother in Christ and straighten this out instead of excoriating him like that?  I mean we are under assault.

Yeah, you people think  you’re just going to get together your little revival and everything and it’s going to be fine.  You think the Devil’s just going to sit it out.  He wants to kill your A-S-S.  That’s what he wants.  And if he can’t get that, if he can’t overdose you on heroin then he’ll settle for getting you in prison for ten years for selling it or buying it or being seen with someone who has it, and then maybe you can be sodomized in prison.  Oh that might be a real delight for the enemy.

So when we put together our little hand holding revival, do we really think that we’re going to be free from assaults?  And  I gotta tell you, I like Brother Mike; his wife makes some damn good toffee.  But I’ll also tell you this, I’ve looked back through some of the things which have been written about him including Orange County publications, and I’m not really liking what I’m seeing.  On the other hand, you’ve said yes I’ve had kind of a rough ride here and there; life’s been rough in spots.  I gave my life over to Jesus and it’s OK. It’s like well that’s fine, but it’s also written in scripture that that doesn’t clear you of the consequences.  So what do we do about this?  Where are we, Doug, seriously?

DH:  Well, if I can speak about Mike..

JBW:  Speak about anything you want.

DH:  And I’ve not talked to Mike, the conference organizer, or Jeannie about this – we didn’t script this so, let me be perfectly frank with everyone and up front and honest.  Umm the ah OK, for those people who don’t know what we’re talking about, then don’t worry about it.  It’s, it’s for those people who do.  Umm those of you I’ll address  in this fashion ah we had , we had a situation where Ted Broer came on our program and used some New Age terminology and Nathan Leal took exception to that, OK, fine.  Umm that whole, that whole thing has been, in my view, has been handled.

But what has come the, the fruits of this, has come up about this is Mike,  the conference organizer has ah, ah, and I didn’t know this until I received an email about this had some issues with organizing conferences, OK.  There were some nasty ex-wife and nasty ex-husband and someone else involved that really lit him up in the media in Orange County, about conference organization.  And this is back before he was saved.  So, ah what this is my understanding, OK, what my understanding is this.  Mike and Jeannie had, Mike wanted to make right the reputation, his reputation, and he went into this conference planning with that understanding above board, look I want, I want to, he said I want to clear my name.  I want to make right with this.  I want to have a conference that’s free of any kind of umm BS, free of any controversy.  And he enlisted um some people uh to help do that, in fact one of the very names I mentioned that is no longer part of the conference- Nathan Leal- it’s my understanding is that’s how it was.

You know, look help me, let’s do this conference and bring some good people together.  Help me clear my name but in so doing, help, let me, um..let’s give the people who are coming this spiritual revival and informational conference.  Well, apparently eh eh something went sideways when, when the scheduling, when the formatting of the conference was not to other people’s liking.  And that prompted the ah, they ah, this mass emailing of Mike’s past.  When that was already decided.  When that was already known to individuals- certain individuals, in my understanding, key individuals, said look, I’m doing this, Mike’s saying I’m doing this not just for the event, but also to clear my name.  Yet that information, John, was weaponized.  That was weaponized against him.  Now I’m not apologizing for Mike’s past, but I’ll say this.  I  asked him directly when I first got that email.  I asked him two questions:  I said Number One, Is it true because I, you know, I can go and find out myself.  And Number Two, do you have oversight?  Outside of yourself and Jeannie and such, for to make sure that rooms are paid for and the money-the accounting of all the money.  He said yes to both.

And the third question, the last question that I asked him, would you allow the oversight you know to make sure that no one is hurt.  And he said sure, so the bottom line is this, after all this crud uh, you, Gregg Jackson, others uh, uh Pastor Lankford, we’re all going to be there, Russ, we’re all going to be a part of this conference as invitees.  Umm, we, I mean, boy, what am I going to say, we did not plan it.  You and I didn’t plan this, we were invited to this, that’s our level of involvement.  But we have to trust the very people who are organizing this.  Can we trust them?  Absolutely.  Are we going to deliver a great product?  Absolutely.  But what you said too when something is organized that has good in it, it’s always a target to those people who want to tear something down.  But see the bottom line here is what I really really, what is distasteful to me is people who insert themselves into a controversy.

And they exacerbate the controversy only for their own gain while look, somebody will say, I am protecting the flock and then they will insert themselves into the controversy only to exacerbate the situation and further..

JBW:  A case could be made for me doing that right now, but I’m OK with it because I’m somewhat of a  confrontational person.  I don’t just let it lie there, because it will get worse if you do usually.

DH:  Well you know, we haven’t even addressed this on our program only, because, so you’re getting my first viewpoint from me but here’s the situation.  I think uh uh at the end of the day, this conference is going to be good.  I really believe for everyone involved it will be beneficial to the people coming.  It’s going to be great- great speakers like yourself and Gregg Jackson and L.A Marzulli, Russ Dizdar’s going to be there.  So many great people.  It’s going to be beneficial.  Yeah there are going to be people tearing this down and, and before hand and after, you know, and during or up to the event itself.  So you have to look at it from a couple of different directions, but the bottom line with me is, folks, what you think you know about any controversy, trust me, you don’t know it all.  There’s a huge back story and people are trying to use you and game you and it’s it’s all at the end of the day It’ll all come out, but ah you know.  So I, it’s going to be a great event. I’m looking forward to meeting you.  I’m looking forward to meeting with Russ and meeting Greg Jackson and everyone on that list, so it’s going to be a fun time.  And it’s an informational time.  I’m really looking forward to it.  I hope that answers your question.  But I don’t know if I’ve been all your question.  I don’t know if I’ve been all over the place but, or if I caused more..

JBW:  No, no you didn’t.  It’s like I ah you know it’s a sad thing about facing your giants.  I don’t want anybody walking in to anything, I don’t want to walk into anything, I want to walk into stuff with my eyes open and knowing what I’m walking into and so if there is stuff whirling around, I either want to validate it or quash it.  One of the two.

DH:  Sure.

JBW:  But I mean there, there’s stuff that’s been levied against Brother Mike because the latest thing I’ve seen is 2010.  Course now that’s six  years ago.  So like you say anything can be weaponized, I mean ah oh well he didn’t pay a parking ticket or whatever you know.  I think we know how media in general can blow things up.  It makes you wonder sometimes what would be the media’s interest including NPR in trying to put Mike on the spot.  You have to wonder what’s the motivation behind that.

DH:  Oh, yeah.  And, and you know, look I think that anyone , anyone of reasonable sensibilities would look at something like this and say well, gee whiz, what’s going on, with you know, the ah, conference organizers of the conference had some pretty bad conferences and allegations levied against them.  What’s the deal?  Well, how are you going to change that perception if you are not going to someone who you trust and say, look I want to change this.  This is a hatchet job, I want to change this.  Let’s do a Christ conference.  Let’s have everything above board and let’s really put together a great conference and then only to have that information, that confidence breached, by someone you trust?  Come on man!  Weaponized against you?  You know so many __(?) yeah there are, and I’ve told privately Steve Quayle I’ve interviewed people, I’ve interviewed inmates in Attica and Rikers for my job and let me tell you something ah from what I’ve seen from some people, I’d much rather at least going into Attica and Rikers, I know what I’m dealing with.

JBW:  Right.

DH:  OK, ah some of the people who proclaim to be forgiving Christians who have their ah email and some of the emails I’ve gotten are the most vile,  vicious emails I’ve ever seen but having said that at least I knew what I was going into but but the problem with people is that they look at,  take someone’s word for it. The internet is the Wild West. Take your..  Here’s what I’m writing, well check it out.  Yeah, if that one slice of information and this goes for anything whether it’s Oregon or the conference or it doesn’t matter, they take a slice of information and they build their own perception from that and in the investigative world that that I’m involved in, that’s called really kind of a paralysis of analysis.  You look at just one little slice of something and you make decisions based on their perceptions, you have based on that.  Man that gets you every time; so widen your perspective, take a  few steps back, think about  rationally, about it, and then go forward.  So..

JBW:  You know, and this is the whole reason, the whole reason and nothing but the reason OK, yeah that’s what it is ah and a nice lady named Vicky sent an email…( they discuss the email which encourages them, and they veer off on a positive note of community, and we are all a family)

Here are my comments on just a few of the Talking Points of this rather obscure discussion of the problems surrounding the Hear The Watchmen, March conference in Dallas.

  1.  How many names does Brother Mike have, exactly?  Hagmann says one, but Wells says more than one.  They do not mention that the name of the organizer of this conference is Mike Kerr, who on his Facebook page and elsewhere referred to himself as Mike Whitestone.  Apparently he has been known to use the Moore name of his wife, Jeannie Moore.  The Facebook name Mike Whitestone later added a reference to the name Mike Kerr, after this question of his legal identity was questioned.
  2. Nathan Leal was cross with Ted Broer.   I had listened to the audio explaining why Leal had resigned from the conference, and I do not find the word cross (as meaning angry)  to be descriptive of the concerns  which Leal reluctantly identified in  great detail, regarding the co-mingling of New Age ideas with a Christian gospel.
  3. The conference is a spiritual revival. Given the warnings in the Bible regarding the merchandising of the Holy Spirit’s work and the Name of God, I am doubtful that any revival at this meeting will be anything other than the works of the flesh. However, I surely hope that their prayers asking for repentance will indeed be answered.  There was a great display of emotionally tinged speech which came forth from the conference speakers during the Sheila Zilinksy, Weekend Vigilante Round Table program of February 4, 2016.   John the Baptist said in Luke 3:8a, Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance
  4. Mike has a credibility problem with regard to his past which should be overlooked.  Hagmann says that the source of Mike’s problems with the Orange County publications (which wrote scathing reports on Mike Kerr’s handling of large scale events to benefit Veterans), arose because of retribution from ex-spouses and others.  However, these reports quoted others who had worked with Kerr, who found that he did not display integrity.  As usual,  the excuse is that this was “before he was saved”, overlooking the fact that many pagans do not display a lack of integrity in those same situations.  Whenever anyone has shown a lack of integrity in the managing of events involving money, it is better that they find a new line of work, whether they be saved or not.  This continual excusing of crooked individuals, whether it be Mike Kerr or a religious charlatan such as  Jim Bakker, always seems to bring a reproach against the name of Christ.  Hagmann says he asked the conference organizers if they had “oversight”?  Mike Kerr said yes, but there is no name mentioned of the person/s who have this responsibility.  The idea that Mike could clear his past reputation by holding an expensive Christian conference is nonsense.  If such a motive did in fact exist, it would have been publicized in the very beginning.  This cover story would seem to have been concocted for this Caravan To Midnight show.  Let me remind the reader, that there is great profit to be made in large scale conferences, even though it was publicized as being a non-profit event.  Most of these so called non-profit events include large salaries for the conference organizers.  Had this event gone as planned with 1,000 persons attending, paying $100-105 per ticket, the revenues for a three day period would be about $100,000-105,000.  Subtract the expenses involved in renting a hotel conference room, speaker’s fees and expenses, and miscellaneous costs, the remainder goes into the pocket of the organizer.  Recall that a separate Go-Fund-me account for $100,000 had been set up to accept donations to bring vets to the conference.  Since there was adverse publicity, it appears that most tickets have probably been discounted by $50 as shown on the Toffee website, and also John B. Wells show.  If this is the case, then revenues would have dropped to $50,000 if all 1,000 tickets were sold.  Mike threatened Nathan Leal with a lawsuit for lost revenues, and it appears that Hagmann and Dave Hodges also threatened Leal with fair use of their radio show audios.
  5. The facts concerning Mike Kerr were weaponized by those whose motives were their own personal gain and their love of exacerbating controversy. Such people are not excused by saying they are protecting the flock.   While the truth about Mike Kerr’s character had been covered up by himself and others, when the facts came out for the potential conference attendees to consider, Hagmann says that wrong motives caused this information to be weaponized.  In reading the articles which brought forth this information, it would appear that the writer was distressed over having to be placed in such an awkward position.  Many of the comments on websites and forums reveal that the writers were also disturbed by this information, but were also ready to overlook this matter if true repentance were displayed.   I am not aware of a time in which  Hagmann has ever revealed “the vile and vicious contents of the emails” he purportedly received.  Given that his own character has been in question for so long, as to the integrity of the information which he reports, I cannot trust his word on this matter.  He still says in this audio, “Trust me”, but fails to consider the number of false government and financial insiders which he has deceived his listeners with over the last few years.  How charitable is it to rail against persons who are professing Christians, and declare that you would rather interview the inmates at Attica and Rikers, who are probably in prison for heinous crimes?
Until those men who merchandise the name of Christ for their own personal gain repent, and start to consider the Scriptural underpinnings of their own sins, it would seem wise that those who profess to love Jesus Christ and his words, reconsider their support and encouragement of such enterprises.


The Sacrifice of Fools: The Hasty Voice of the Christian Alternative News Talebearer

Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools:  for they consider not that they do evil.  Be  not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God:  for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth:  therefore let thy words be few.  Ecclesiastes 5:1-2

On February 5, 2016 I received at 3:14 pm an email from Paul McGuire Ministries titled URGENT PRAYER REQUEST FOR CHRISTIANS IN GRAVE DANGER!

Three hours later at 6:23 pm I received another email retracting the first message, which was entitled APOLOGY FROM PAUL MCGUIRE AND A CALL TO STAND!  It would seem that the first email had been sent based on a hoax.  Paul McGuire explained that in his zeal to help the persecuted church, he raced to get his information out.  So what information did he get out?


PAUL MCGUIRE read below-  URGENT PRAYER REQUEST    PRAY for the church in India which had 20 churches burned down last night.  Tonight they want to destroy more than 200 churches in the Olisabang province.  They want to kill 200 missionaries within the next 24 hours and all Christians are hiding in villages!!  Pray for them and send this message to all Christians you know.  Ask God to have mercy on our brothers and sisters in India.  When you receive this message, please urgently send it to other people. Please pray for the 22 Christian Missionary families sentenced to be executed by Islamists in Afghanistan.  Please PASS this as fast as you can so that many will pray!!!  Just received this from a Pastor in Las Vegas.  Love, Pastor Pat Cross

The first thing I notice in this message is that there is nothing which appears to stand as documented proof of the claims made, such as a copy of an actual news report from India, or the actual names and locations of the churches or their pastors.  It is clearly a Chain Letter which had been sent out to test whether the Recipient has the hasty spirit of a Talebearer. While Paul McGuire has defended his tale bearing hasty spirit as being that of a man zealous for the persecuted church, he seems to have forgotten whose Name he invokes when he commits this sin.  Ever ready to give the sacrifice of fools as Senior Pastor of the Mailbox Church, Paul McGuire seems to think that a million intercessors who contact the UN have more persuasive power with Jesus Christ than the lone voice of a persecuted Christian who is the actual victim undergoing acute suffering.

You will notice that Paul McGuire quotes scripture without letting the reader know where he can find the exact location of this verse.  If we turn to Isaiah 59:19 in a King James Holy Bible,  we read So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun.  When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.  Paul McGuire quoted from the second half of this verse, and left out the part about fearing the name of the LORD and his glory.  Now why would he do that in his pious zeal for the persecuted?  He also places a comma in a place which alters the meaning of the verse.  He has the word flood, which references the actions of the enemy, to refer instead to the spirit of the LORD.

Isaiah 59:19 is set against a backdrop of The Intercessor, the Redeemer of Israel.  This chapter begins as a chastisement from the LORD, and ends in hope of redemption: “Behold, the LORD’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:  but your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity:  your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.  None calleth for justice…..And judgment is turned away backward…and he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor:  therefore his arm brought salvation unto him: and his righteousness, it sustained him”. (Isaiah 59:1-3, 4a,14a,16).  It will profit you, dear Reader, if you read the entire chapter for yourself and ponder the contrast between man as intercessor, and the LORD’s Redeemer, who brings true righteousness and justice.

At the end of Paul McGuire’s newsletters, he always displays this request for donations:paul mcguire feb 2016 4 (2)Paul McGuire was willing to issue a quick apology for encouraging his readers to believe a false report whose foundation was nothing but a Chain Letter-Pass the False News on urgently request.  However, he has never apologized to the author of this blog for the false accusation he made, nor has he provided documentation to this blog that he fulfils the scriptural definition of a pastor of a local church. Never mind that he can pull the wool over the eyes of the IRS, what does God think about all of this?

Paul McGuire will be speaking at the Hear The Watchmen conference in Dallas in March. The day after he speaks, he will be speaking at yet another conference.  The Christian Alternative Media is known for their Revolving Door Speaker’s Club, as amply illustrated by this particular conference.  However, as Knights of the Order of the Hasty Talebearers and Hirelings All, no doubt their Crusade is designed to test which one can be first in line for the All-You-Can-Eat Buffet.  When they saddle for battle as commanded, it may be difficult for them to get this Battle of the Bulge through the revolving door of the conference hotel as quickly as Knights should.

hear the watchmen 206 2016 paul mcguire speaker (2)Who better to illustrate how the church has gotten in bed with the world due to their failure to repent and stand for righteousness, than the Crusaders in this photo?  The Go-Fund-Me page of Mike Whitestone says, The Watchmen Need You.  You bet they do. Remember, it is not really you they need, it is your hard earned money.  Are you willing to offer the sacrifice of fools, also?

Twin Horns of a Dilemma: The Love of the Wages of Unrighteousness And Controlling Your Own Devils

And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron.. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.  But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?  And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself. I Kings 22:11a, 23-25

King Ahab at Ramoth-Gilead

King Ahab at Ramoth-Gilead

Recently, I noticed that one of the Hagmann’s websites had been posting Sky Watch TV’s series of Tom Horn articles on Trolls. These series of articles are incorporated under the clever title, For Whom The Baal Trolls. Dr. Thomas R. Horn is a person of note, having pastored a local church, later serving in an administrative capacity for an evangelical association, and in the past few years becoming a book publisher, as well as an author, setting up Sky Watch TV,and selling prepper supplies at his Survivor Mall. Both his writing and his oratorical skills reflect a broad  knowledge of religion, history, and current events.  So with these attributes in mind, I thought I would take a look at what he has written thus far on internet trolls in articles 1-4.

In the first article posted January 21, 2016, Tom Horn used a definition of troll from a Psychology Today article quoting Professor Jennifer Golbeck who wrote “Let’s getting our definitions straight, an internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation.  Often in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved.  Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.” I have highlighted this definition in bold letters, as this definition will serve as the plumb line to gauge how Tom Horn subtly expands the deviant behavior of trolls to include persons who write blogs.

At the very start of this first article we see a screen shot of a video of Lori Bakker on her husband’s TV program, The Jim Bakkar Show, with the words “God Hates Discord Among the Brethren”. This leads into a quote from Charisma News on 1/15/2016, wherein Shawn A. Akers referenced this particular show in his article called ‘This is the No. 1 Thing God  Hates’. Tom Horn notes that Lori Bakker quotes from Galatians 5:22-26 which describes the fruit of the Spirit as contrasted against “vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another”.

The article comments, “Not exactly a picture of today’s society, is it? Everywhere you go, especially in the media and on social media, you can find people criticizing each other and tearing each other down without conscience. And that includes Christians toward the world, and with each other. Evangelists Jim and Lori Bakker say, “This has got to stop.” “This is the No. 1 thing God hates,” Jim Bakker said. “God hates sowing discord among the brethren.”

So even before we get to the definition of trolls, Tom Horn has chosen to introduce his first article with God hating discord among the brethren, as opined by that televangelist fraud Jim Bakker, who presumably has repented from his former sexual proclivities and shyster-isms. The first thing to be noticed from these sources  is that they fail to provide the reader with the exact Scriptural verses undergirding the points they are making on discord.

Looking through the Bible, my eyes behold Proverbs 6:16-19, “These six things doth the LORD hate:  yea, seven are an abomination unto him:  A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief. A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”

Just before these verses of seven things which are an abomination to the LORD, my eyes spot verses 12-15, which also pertain to this discussion on discord. “A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a froward mouth.  He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually:  he soweth discord.  Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.”

Are you beginning to wonder why these verses surrounding the topic of discord were not quoted as they stand in the Bible? Why pick out one aspect which God hates, and declare that to be the Number One thing.  And why does Tom Horn exalt Jim Bakker’s opinions, who even after he got out of prison, refused to stay out of the “Christian Con Game”?    Perhaps it is because both Tom Horn and Jim Bakker are profiteers of the Prepper movement. And incidentally, both men also promote Jonathan Cahn, who has said that Jim Bakker had mentored him.

Now, anyone who knows me, also knows that I think that a prudent person does wisely plan for his own household, considering that they might have to ride out rough times ahead. My own parents and grandparents rode out the Depression and  World War II by having a home garden, canning and preserving food items, bartering, etc. I am not against Preppers.   I am against the shameless exploitation of the fears of vulnerable persons, who then end up purchasing items which are heavily marked up, often of inferior grade, and shipped at exorbitant costs.

In Tom Horn’s first article he quotes from research done on a concept called the Dark Triad, which is comprised of “Machiavellianism (willingness to employ cunning and duplicity to manipulate and deceive others)”, narcissism and sadism. Apparently these traits are also linked to internet trolls, with sadism being the “strongest characteristic”.  Because of the continuing nuisance of trolls, Tom Horn has an in-house policy which he calls BLOCK, FILTER, DELETE! I have no problem with such a policy when dealing with persons who meet the defined criteria of a Troll. Such persons are, if nothing else, time wasters; genuine and sincere dialogue is not the intent of a troll.

The second article in this Troll series deals with the unseen world of spiritual wickedness, and Tom Horn discusses how such entities might gain legal ground over various types of territories. The final paragraph is key, and states, “These are ancient statutory principles that pertain equally to material and spiritual dynamics.  They imply that wherever activity favorable to malevolent spirits occurs by consent, is tolerated, or action is not taken to force the “squatter’ to cease and desist, footholds and even personal rights can be surrendered to hostile forces over people and locations.  This is similar to the contract some Internet trolls are making with dark forces.”

The third article displays a screenshot at the top which states, ” Troll– internet- In internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the internet starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community.” This article begins by discussing his 1998 book which can be downloaded for free at the Sky Watch Store, called Spiritual Warfare:  The Invisible Invasion.  He rhetorically asks, What does this have to do with Internet trolls?  The answer given deals with territorial demonization, and the difference between those who are deceived by the demonic world versus those who knowingly form alliances.

From here Tom Horn presents in his fourth article the discussion of religious demons entering churches as a spiritual military strategy. And what is his starting point?  It is 2 Chronicles 18:18b-21a which he quotes as, I saw the Lord sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.  And the Lord said, “Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-Gilead?  ”  And one spoke after this manner, and another saying after that manner. Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, “I will entice him.”  And the Lord said unto him, “Wherewith?”  And he said, “I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.”

In this respect, Tom Horn quotes David Wilkerson on the Satanic infiltration of the church -especially charismatic churches- by those posing as super spiritual Christians.  Horn says this includes Internet troll “theology cops”. Tom Horn reproduces some of his own words from his book Blood On The Altar regarding “fake defenders of the faith”. While he does not reference his book in this particular citation, anyone who is familiar with the February 10, 2015 Joint Response of Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann against “character assassination”, and the January 6, 2016 Hagmann Report radio broadcast where Steve Quayle also quotes from Blood On The Altar, notes the importance which this work is given by the inner circle of the Christian Alternative Media.

Tom Horn, again without identifying the exact Scriptural verses, paraphrases Matthew 18:15-17 which discuss the procedure to follow when dealing with a brother in the church who has trespassed against you, as another Christian. If you gain familiarity with false teachers and false prophets, you will discover that they always throw down the gauntlet of Matthew 18 to reprove those who are obeying the admonitions of the Bible on how to deal with false doctrine and heresies. This is a deliberate misuse of Scripture to shut down the truth, just as the goal of internet trolls is to shut down sincere  Christian dialogue.

Since the topic of these articles are internet trolls, which represent that Dark Triad of Machiavellianism, narcissism, and sadism, cannot we safely say that such persons are not brothers in Christ?  And if such dark personalities profess Christianity, are we to assume that their aggressive militaristic behavior is a matter which falls under the procedures of Matthew 18?  To do so, is to render the genuine Christian powerless.  Let us here observe at this point in the discussion,  that the Christian Alternative Media, under the banner of Watchmen, has waged an unrelenting campaign against a quiet faith in Jesus Christ and against believing and reading the Bible for oneself.  This is accomplished by a steady stream of fear mongering propaganda, false prophets, “Insider” men with hidden identities, the proliferation of badly written books,  overpriced prepper supplies, etc., etc. etc.

Tom Horn, after referencing Matthew 18, speaks words which are similar to his introduction to his Blood On The Altar book, saying, “With that in mind, the next time you are online reading some troll’s diatribe about Carl Gallups, Chuck Missler, Gary Stearman, Steve Quayle, L.A. Marzulli, Cris Putnam, Jonathan Cahn, Josh Peck, Gonz Shimura, Joel Richardson, yours truly, or any of the other current favorite targets, ask yourself if the hatchet people attacking them ever bothered to obey Scripture and go to the person PRIVATELY with their concerns in a loving spirit of restoration (they haven’t), and then “be careful little eyes what you read,” because these scripture-guideline-stomping destructive forces seek to contaminate your mind and spirit (see Proverbs 4:23-27) in order to draw YOU TOO over to the dark side.”

After saying all that, Tom Horn then says, “Be absolutely clear about this, as well:  NOTHING in Scripture allows for setting up websites, blogs, or other mediums to PUBLICALLY and routinely lambast believers with accusations – that is the job of Satan and his followers!  He is the father of lies and the “accuser of our brethren…which accused them before our God day and night” (John 8:44; Revelation 12:10).

Let’s pause here for a moment to summarize the movement of thought throughout these first  four articles on Trolls.  We start with  God hates discord among the brethren, and then move into a definition of an internet troll as someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments which disrupts genuine dialogue.  We then are told that trolls have deep underlying Machiavellian, narcissistic and sadistic tendencies, that they contract with dark territorial forces, and that there are internet trolls professing Christianity which attack true Bible-based websites.  So far so good, if we stick to the internet troll definition as someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments.

Suddenly we find that Tom Horn, who as a matter of policy, blocks, filters and deletes internet trolls, has now subtly redefined the standard definition of the internet troll to include anyone who has a website or blog who criticizes Tom Horn or any of his Christian business partners and book writers.  He calls such persons fake defenders of the faith.

So how about a real life example of a Christian brother who attempted to write Tom Horn with his concerns?  Let us see how Tom Horn dealt with this person.  Dr. Scott Johnson, who is a chiropractor, began several years ago recording audio tapes of his own Bible studies.  He first published these audio recordings, I believe, on the Sermon Audio website, but after he criticized another person on this site, he was told to leave.  So he started posting his audios on his own webpage, Contending for  When I first heard Dr. Johnson on Sermon Audio, he was a bit annoying; but over time, he started improving his delivery, and he has since made numerous Biblically sound warnings against false prophets and heresies.

Dr. Johnson did not come from a Christian background, and therefore like those of us with similar histories, he made every mistake in the book. He was deeply involved in Charismatic churches, and later in the Independent Baptist Fundamental churches.  I have always granted him leeway, despite not being in agreement with him on some issues, because for the most part he tests the spirits, and he loves sound doctrine.  An area which causes me to be a bit cautious is that Dr. Johnson used to be a speaker on the Prophecy Club circuit, plus it appears he relies too heavily on news reports coming from Steve Quayle’s website.  When he defended Dr. Dino, I posted  a  comment critical of Dr. Johnson’s discernment.  There was a point years ago when I dropped off listening to Dr. Johnson because of his lack of discernment of Tom Horn.  Eventually, he decided that he was mistaken and he wrote his concerns to Dr. Tom Horn.

Dr. Johnson sent Tom Horn an email dated August 28, 2010 regarding the promotion of Catholicism through videos and articles. If I remember correctly, Dr. Johnson had said that Tom Horn was acquainted with his name.  However, Tom Horn never replied to this inquiry.  Dr. Johnson is not an internet troll as defined by common consensus, and he tried to communicate privately with Tom Horn with his concerns.  Dr. Johnson went public with his email when his sincere communication was ignored by Tom Horn. If you look at the link above, you will also see that Dr. Johnson had some strong reservations regarding Tom Horn’s friends Gary Stearman and David Flynn.

There is a great deal of hypocrisy in the Christian Alternative Media, as some of these merchandisers routinely block, censor, and attack genuine Christians who question the soundness of their doctrine, yet consider it nothing to lambast such persons on air.  They exhibit a double standard when they block legitimate comments on their own websites, while at the same time they send around some of their own “plants”, lying spirits, to try to entrap the writers of Biblically based “discernment”  blogs whose comment sections are free speech zones. This has happened even here at  the Tracking the Leopard Meroz website.

In my case, each of these lying spirits ended up in the peculiar position of coming under the condemnation of their own words. You see, the word of God is a double edged sword.  Revelation 2:12-17  deals with the church at Pergamos, where Satan’s seat was, and the letter sent to it was from Jesus Christ, “he which hath the sharp sword with two edges”.  This letter reproves those who hold the doctrine of Balaam and also the doctrine of the Nicolaitans.  It is only those who overcome, which he gives the hidden manna and the white stone which has “a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.”

One of the characteristics of  Charismatic Christian groups is that they are so obsessed with the world of demonology and their methodology, that they end up being unable to distinguish between Satanists posing as super-spiritual Christians  and genuine Christians who are obeying Scriptural admonitions.  Thus blinded, they fight against anyone who is against them.  Jesus Christ, as head of the Church and the sound doctrine of the Bible never enter into this battle of theirs at all.

Tom Horn says that someone who criticizes, say, for example, Chuck Missler, is a fake defender of the faith.  Here is an example of a blog called which features an article by Gaylene Goodroad called Chuck Missler and Plagiarism: Purloining New Age Ideas. The writer of this article has taken the time to explain her accusation by comparing line by line examples of Chuck Missler’s writings against a book written by Michael Talbot.  Should her thoughtful post be disregarded because she has documented a complaint against one of Tom Horn’s friends? Certainly this was never a matter of applying Matthew 18.  It is a warning however, about the veracity of Chuck Missler.

Tom Horn mentions the name of L. A. Marzulli as being the target of fake defenders of the faith.  He currently is on the speaker roster for the Hear The Watchmen conference scheduled for March 2016 in Dallas.  Perhaps we should pay close attention to how he personally deals with the on-going controversy involving Nathan Leal, Dr. Broer,  and Mike Kerr AKA Mike Whitestone.  After all, if Mr. Marzulli is a genuine defender of the faith, we will want to examine the example he sets in this rather peculiar situation.  With John Little setting the bar of integrity so high, the twin horns of a dilemma become that of the love of the wages of unrighteousness in the heart of all these Christian Alternative Media stars, and the matter of controlling your own devils.  As pointed out in the third article of For Whom the Baal Trolls, Tom Horn says that “having a demon” (echon daimonion) can actually denote a person who possesses the demon, and not the other way around.(his emphasis)

This conference has now been subtitled, The Crusade Begins:  Saddle for Battle and shows the feet of a horse running and kicking up dirt. Are they headed for Ramoth-Gilead, or what?  Have they called on the Knights Templar Crusaders to defend them? Have they forgotten that Daniel 5:27 applies to them?  “TEKEL;  Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.”  Ahab did not believe that and he fell at Ramoth-Gilead.hear the watchemen saddle for battle (2)

I would like to remind the leaders of the Christian Alternative Media that Jesus Christ said in Revelation 2:16, Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.  This he said in regard to those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, and also the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.(my emphasis).  You see, perhaps the Number One thing which God hates are the Nicolaitans and the sorcerers who are like Balaam, which cause so much of the discord in the church.