Robert Baty, Retired IRS Appeals Officer and Christian Seeks to Break The Code of Silence Protecting Kent Hovind’s False Legal Narratives

The Code of Silence of  Hear No Evil, See No Evil, and Speak No Evil. Feigning Ignorance,    Kent Hovind and his supporters  just can’t seem to figure out why the laws of this nation apply to them.

In discussing today’s subject, the first thing that I need to explain are those three primates to the left, representing The Code of Silence employed by liars to protect their sacred falsehoods from the light of truth.   Also called the sin of willful ignorance, a Biblical illustration found in Mark 11:27-33 gets to the heart of this Oath.  This oath has not evolved much from its creation, for these verses relate that the chief priests, scribes and the elders challenged Jesus by asking, “By what authority doest thou these things?  And who gave thee this authority to do these things?”

In reply, Jesus said, “I will ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?  Answer me.”  So these men reasoned among themselves, and understood that either answer would place them in a position that they did not want to be in. Therefore they answered, “We cannot tell.” Perhaps they foresaw the day when Robert Baty would challenge a debate with the most effective apologist for Biblical creation in the world, Kent Hovind.

This we cannot tell answer is what is referred to as willful ignorance, and it has dire consequences in the soul of the person who engages in it. Heart motives are revealed in how we answer a question, and like the chief priests, elders and scribes,  Kent Hovind and his supporters refuse to fully explain their position, which fits neither the facts or the law.  The we cannot tell oath which undergirds The Code of Silence is the primary means of justification utilized by agnostics.  Christians are to give an answer for the who, what, why, when, where and how of what they believe, and this answer should be spoken in clearly understood words.  Agnostics, the “not knowers“,  walk in deep darkness because at the heart of the matter is that they refuse to acknowledge real authority, as they consider real facts and evidence as some form of evil.

The feigned ignorance of Kent Hovind and his supporters is inexcusable because the foundation of his legal woes has been plainly laid out in court documents and commentaries over the years.   While Christians are not to obey evil dictates, it should never be overlooked that the authority of government is God ordained, and therefore to be shown proper respect.

A Christian response to Kent Hovind

Let me give a couple of examples to bring these assertions to life. The first regards a Christian who sincerely considered the evidence of the Kent Hovind trial, and the implications of it.  On January 21, 2007 rbell,  a forum member of quoted Kent Hovind’s plea for leniency to the court just prior to his sentencing, saying, “If it’s just money the IRS wants, there are thousands of people out there who will help pay the money they want so I can go back out there and preach”.

Rbell commented that he found Kent Hovind’s words disturbing…”let other folks–my supporters–pay my taxes“, and so he lays down 12 reasons why Hovind is a liar and disobedient to the Scriptures, as shown in this screenshot.

Honor Among the Tax Sophists:  Rick Wiles and Kent Hovind bond together as two sides of the same counterfeit coin 

My second example concerns the feigned ignorance shown eight years later on July 28, 2015, when Rick Wiles of TruNews said in a video interview of Kent Hovind, “Most of the Trunews audience knows the name Dr. Kent Hovind.  He’s the most famous and respected advocate of creation science in our nation.  He’s the founder of the Creation Science Evangelist Ministry at the Dinosaur Adventure Land in Florida.  He traveled extensively for many years throughout the USA conducting creation science seminars and along the way he simply irritated too many people who despise God in the Bible and the corrupt regime that controls the federal government went after him in 2006.  The IRS obtained federal convictions of him and Mrs. Hovind on three bogus charges, including structuring, meaning he withdrew cash from the bank in small increments which added up to ten thousand dollars. Did you know they can put you away for doing that?  Well they did with Dr. Hovind and his wife. They also convicted him of tax evasion because his ministry’s associates were classified as ministers of the gospel, not employees who had payroll taxes withheld.  You know the Soviet union silenced dissidents by committing them to mental institutions…”. (14.38-15.46).

Despite volumes of evidence which refute what Rick Wiles has stated above, he chooses to bear false witness against the IRS and the court system, stating that Kent Hovind’s tax problems arose because of his accusers’ hatred of the God of the Bible. When it comes to Kent Hovind and to Rick Wiles, they both adhere to the Code of Silence as they refuse to truthfully discuss each other’s tax propensities.

So what would be Rick Wiles’ motive in covering over the tax fraud of Kent Hovind?  Well, one of Kent Hovind’s arguments was that the United States of America has no jurisdiction over him, and he based his reasoning on the arguments put forth by someone associated with the Sovereign Citizen Movement.   Interestingly, this movement promotes a tax avoidance scheme that for years Rick Wiles has used involving the structuring of his ministry as a Corporation Sole

I have written a couple of articles on Rick Wiles and his Office of Bishop of the Church of Trunews, and his Successor, a Corporation Sole,  as well as his Office of the Senior Pastor and President of the Flowing Streams Church, and his Successors, a Corporation Sole.  In 2016, a reader who I will not identify, who is personally acquainted with Rick Wiles, wrote “He calls himself a Bishop, but ordained/consecrated by whom?  Flowing Streams Church has never conducted weekly services.  Lately, his sidekick calls him Pastor Rick, but senior pastor of what?  The Montana address they used on Last Chance Gulch is the Iron Face Hotel, and it is a hotel room.  They rent efficiencies by the month.”

Unless Rick Wiles has recently altered the legal structuring of his ministry, the last I heard was that this self proclaimed Senior Pastor of the Flowing Streams Church, which has no services and no members, had received in 2015 donations totaling $5 million.  All of this fake church set-up is contrary to tax law, so is it any wonder that Rick Wiles covers over the criminal convictions of  Kent Hovind?

Pay No Attention to that tax fraud behind the curtain,  the Radical Righteous Remnant of the Hagmann & Hagmann family Is Told to Walk on Water

Another example of The Monkey Code of Silence is found in this TheNewsUnit post with an audio clip from the Hagmann & Hagmann radio show of April 17, 2015. Note that last sentence, The result is a very profitable and lucrative ministry. And whoever put that sideways smiley face next to V-The Guerrilla Economist’s name had better go into hiding after that last article I did exposing that fraud V.

During this 2.40 minute audio clip from the Hagmann & Hagmann Report (50.45-52.49 mark) of April 17, 2015, we hear Gregg Jackson surmising, “…what if, Joe and Doug, if we look at the Kent Hovind situation, a guy who’s rotting in prison right now being persecuted unfairly, unjustly, essentially and we all know it’s not for tax evasion or any of those things.  It’s because they want to shut up the most effective apologist for biblical creation in the world.  That’s the real reason that they don’t want Kent Hovind out there, I believe.”

“So what if, I’m just using this as an example, what if the whole Hagmann and Hagmann family, not just those on Hagmann Connect, but what about if all of your listeners, and I know that your audience dwarfs MSNBC all combined that it’s bigger than most talk radio shows out there on most of the major networks, what if we came together as the Radical Righteous Remnant of the body of believers of the Hagmann & Hagmann family, what if you had, as Coach Dave was saying, even a small percentage of the Hagmann and Hagmann listeners calling in on behalf of Kent Hovind to the Judge or to whoever is hearing his case or to the local news media as those living locally in the area to go down to the courthouse where if I understand it correctly from Coach it was only about a handful of churches that came, our members of churches, but what if we and my point in this, we can have that type of impact but it’s up to us ultimately.”

“This is why what Coach Dave was saying is so important.  It’s time to get in the game, which means we need to be uncomfortable and what do I mean by that that I mean we need to do the types of things that are uncomfortable for us.  Do you think it was uncomfortable for Peter to take a step out of that boat when Jesus was, was walking on water?  Peter got out of the boat, was walking, do you think that was uncomfortable?  I mean it defies credulity, it defies the small human pea brains that we have that apart from faith and  being obedient, it means walking on water, who can walk on water, I mean obviously it defies nature.  I’m not going to be able to do that and yet Peter was able to do that and why was he able to do that because it was focused on the Lord Jesus Christ.”

OK, here we have Gregg Jackson calling on the millions of Hagmann listeners to take action, and he does not provide any details.  Apparently he does not know the Judge’s name, or even who is presiding over the Kent Hovind case, or exactly what city it is in, or what the case is even about.  But he wants everyone to phone this unnamed Judge and unnamed local newspaper, about what? “Hello Judge or What-ever-you-are, I’m in the game now, and we all know that your ruling has nothing to do with taxes, and millions of us have commandeered an armada of fishing boats just like at Dunkirk, and we are all going to walk across the Gulf of Mexico just like Peter did, by faith….(click)”.

Why Robert Baty IS Kent Hovind’s Worst Nightmare

When I first considered Kent Hovind in 2015, my primary sources of information were Peter J. Reilly who is a contributor on tax issues on, and Dee Holmes who has a blog at I have always considered Kent Hovind’s worst nightmare to be himself and his supporters.  But recently, as I began to consider the philosophy of the Sovereign Citizen Movement and how that tied in with various persons in the Christian Alternative News Media, I ran into the writings and interviews of Robert Baty who calls himself Kent Hovind’s Worst Nightmare.

Baty has a bit of a provocative sense of humor which he uses to  gall the shameless Hovind into a debate with him.  He recently  posted a photo of himself standing in front of the gate of the  Dinosaur Adventure Land property in Alabama. And Baty’s website  posts this notice, THE CHALLENGE TO KENT HOVIND.  There are now a total of 66 propositions for consideration..  Come out, Kent Hovind.  Or, send me your Champion. We have things to discuss.. Sincerely, Robert Baty

What Kent Hovind fears the most is that Baty is very well spoken, a good writer displaying both humor and intelligence, who displays sound logic.  Oh yeah, and he is a retired IRS Appeals Officer who is also a Christian, who easily rips the veil off of  Hovind’s false legal narrative.

While Kent Hovind avoids the debate challenge of Robert Baty, those who argue with him soon retreat to the safety of the hen house.

Personally I would like to see Kent Hovind’s Champions  come out one by one to debate Baty, starting with the Master of the Corporation Sole Rick Wiles, and then Get In The Game Dave (Coach) Daubenmire, The Godfather Douglas Hagmann, Goldslinger Steve Quayle, and I Can Walk on Water Gregg Jackson.  Or if they are terrified that one day they might look out the window and see Robert Baty standing on the street outside of their sovereign domain,  perhaps they could arrange to come out as a group representing the Radical Righteous Remnant of the Hagmann Family. 

I know nothing of Robert Baty’s personal life, but I suspect his adversaries know a lot. I did notice that on October 10, 2017, Kent Hovind raised up on his video lead page, the banner  Touch Not Mine Anointed as a warning to someone. Perhaps he has actually read the 66 debate propositions posted on Robert Baty’s website, titled Kent Hovind v. Robert Baty- The Great Debates!  And now Hovind has been rendered speechless.

These 66 propositions are worded in the traditional debate style that requires the two debaters to begin their arguments by affirming or denying the opening statement. If that is too complicated of a process for Hovind,  Baty has other sections on his website which relate to the core issues or persons connected with the Hovinds and their supporters.

One of the most dangerous aspects of Robert Baty, which is probably the number one  reason why Kent Hovind will not debate,  is the fact that Baty had steadfastly followed the details of the Hovind tax trials over the years and noticed things which the casual observer would not.  For example, the August 13, 2013, Peter J. Reilley’s article,  Doctor Dino- Kent Hovind May Lose in Court but will never give up, displays this comment from Robert Baty:I am going to take up the challenge of that last sentence, so the next post will be on, hmmm, there is so much to choose from, how about the tax advice of Glenn Stoll who can get you a longer jail sentence than you thought possible.


**********MURDER HE WROTE********** starring Steve Quayle and Rick Wiles


In this latest saga, we find Rick Wiles, who seems totally oblivious to the dire warnings inherent in David Lankford’s latest dream, building yet another platform for snakes. On February 15, 2016, in an interview titled STEVE QUAYLE-THE DEATH OF JUSTICE, at the 51.17 mark, Rick Wiles begins, “One person that is going to be part of that platform is my long time friend Steve Quayle, and he is working on a new video program that is going to be part of our platform.  And so you want to make sure that you listen to tomorrow’s program.  I am going to give you more information about it. (the volume is then turned up on RW’s mic, and a dramatic booming voice announces)  Steve Quayle is on the phone from Bozeman, Montana!”

Rick Wiles:  Steve, what was the first thought in your mind Saturday, when you heard the news that Justice Scalia had passed away?

Steve Quayle:  Immediately?  MURDER.

RW:  Really?

SQ:  Yes, Sir.  MURDER.  There is a reason I say that is because again the Supreme Court is probably one of the most volatile positions now, that had needed a change.  And as the headlines progressed through the early hours of ah you know my becoming aware of it, and all the different stories being told, obviously they said it was natural causes.  Whenever I hear instantly natural causes, I go auhh, auhh.  Because it’s like the preparation, or the headlines have been prepared in advance.  Then we watch the whole thing unfold, it wasn’t a heart attack.  Remember, they said it was a heart attack, how can you determine a heart attack without an autopsy?

RW:  He was pronounced dead over the telephone.  How does the coroner get there and pronounce somebody dead by doing it over the telephone?  Are they doing it by Skype now?

SQ: Well, I think ah you know that the obvious statement is there was an expectation – the question that has to be asked, who stood down the Secret Service, that has the job of protecting Federal Judges?  But you know, Rick, MURDER is MURDER INC. now and it’s MURDER OF THE DAY.  Obviously, now we find that he had a pillow placed over his head.  But there is also other discrepancies, and I think it is a tragedy and a travesty that the highest judicial, and known as a Conservative, Catholic, by the way, is MURDERED.  And now anybody who makes a statement is considered or deemed to be a ah domestic terrorist.

RW:  What are some of the other discrepancies you’ve heard about?

SQ:  Well, first of all I think the way the bed was presented, ah you know he basically laid down and have given the, if you will, the nature of the CRIME scene, the different stories that are relating to how he died, the absolute out of character ah response of coroners, of the press.  Everything was pre-staged.  And I think that that’s what’s troubling to me the most, Rick, because again I think that there’s really something here, OK.  The pillow is left over Scalia’s head and obviously if you want to cover up a CRIME scene, you would have removed it.

Hands look peaceful like he folded his hands like there was no struggle and what’s interesting is that ah someone who may have done this may have straightened the bed.  I would think if you’re having a heart attack, unless it’s instantaneous, that there would be more mussing of the covers.  Now the other thing I find it interesting is the family’s not insisting that an autopsy, and you know this is troubling to me, because again it’s like I don’t know if someone has been threatened or whatever, but if the sheets aren’t rumpled, and you know no one that I know goes to bed and lays their hands down on their chest, and I’m just saying that again it was reported that it was a heart attack – no autopsy.  The coroner reports it over the phone.

The owners of the ranch are talking about different statements that are being contradicted in the main stream press.  So this is a Classic Cover-up.  By the way when I was up I got an email from Marshall and, and, the words that came to my spirit, Rick, this is critical, you know again, Weep America.  Weep. Your nation has become stolen from you. You have become a nation of MURDERERSNow that’s really heavy, OK?  That’s REALLY heavy.

RW:  I wonder if the pillow was checked for chloroform.

SQ:  Well, it could be due to, listen, they have a million ways to kill you.  Andrew Breitbart was..

RW:  He was poisoned.

SQ:  And Breitbart was hit with a psychotronic weapon.  You know they, they had Senate hearings in the seventies on heart attack weapons, you know.  I know  a talk radio show host that got zapped with one and he made it through.

Steve Quayle and Rick Wiles continue to talk about Andrew Breitbart’s death and the information he knew……

SQ:  And if people remember, Tom Clancy was also killed under mysterious circumstances, and Tom Clancy had made a similar statement.

RW:  Somebody did kill Justice Scalia.  Why did they leave the pillow on his face?

SQ:  I think it’s a if you will a cult(occult?) type signature of a specified killing, in other words you know, We can get you wherever you are.  Keep your mouth shut.  Now Scalia was going to vote on some pretty heavy measures you know, and  one of the things as you know, the NRA, National Rifle Association came out and said, understand people that ……( discusses this subject further)…

But you know, Rick, this has all the classic overtones of the octopus like tentacles of ah anybody that could stand in the way of the destruction of the United States and I want to point something else out to everybody last week……(discusses how the news of Scalia’s death caused him to stay awake all night)…But Scalia, this is such an in your face statement that We’ve got the country.  And I think that’s whats tragic.  If there isn’t a screaming, if there isn’t a demand for autopsy, if there isn’t an independent investigative arm, then you know this – then you know that basically the statement has been made from the people behind this that We can kill anyone anytime anywhere and there is nothing you can do about it.

RW:  It has all the hallmarks of a fascist police state.

SQ:  Well you know we have, ah, I have maintained the Nazis never lost the  Ha Ha! – lost World War II.

The above is a partial transcription of about eight minutes of an audio published at TRUNEWS on February 15, 2016, called STEVE QUAYLE-THE DEATH OF JUSTICE.    Rick Wiles sets up a question from the very start, to which Quayle answers MURDER.  We are dealing with a scripted dialogue which sparks the listener’s  imagination into accepting a judgment without first hearing the evidence

I have entitled this propaganda piece MURDER HE WROTE, and highlighted some of the highly charged word components in blood red. Rick Wiles plays the part of Inspector Clueless. Steve Quayle, plays the part of The Obituary Columnist of TRU-Lies NEWS, and after immediately tossing the  MURDER card on the table, the imaginations of these two men run wild.   The very real possibility that Justice Scalia might have passed away quietly due to his advanced age of 79, and declining health, is cast aside. The possibility that the family, who  believed that they were dealing with a natural death, wanted to make sure that persons in the Alternative Media were kept away from private family matters, is never given any credence by Wiles and Quayle. And you will note that neither men properly honored the memory of Justice Scalia; he was just a prop piece in this propaganda play.

Rick Wiles and Steve Quayle engage in much Pillow Talk, and Steve Quayle tells us that his spirit gave him yet another revelation of the destiny of America. Possibly becoming terrified of his own pillow, we are informed that Steve Quayle lost a whole night’s sleep over this news report.  When they run out of facts on Scalia’s death,  they bring up the old conspiratorial theories which were proven unfounded, as to the causes of the deaths of Andrew Breitbart  and  Tom Clancy.

Does anyone remember who shoved these strange murder theories in our face, in the first place?  Why it was none other than that Alternative News con man, Jim Garrow, who the last time I had heard,  had been placed under house arrest.  If you have forgotten who he is, I will refresh your memory with this article.

Jim Garrow claimed to be a former CIA agent, but there are those who consider him to be a fraud, and think that the real CIA ought to investigate him for unlawful impersonation. Jim Garrow wrote a book called The Pink Pagoda, which is reviewed here in depth by  This book review is thoughtful and thorough , and mentions an interesting character in the book called Yoda.  Does anyone recall the series of talks given a couple of years ago by a mysterious operative called Yoda on The Hagmann and Hagmann radio show?  Jim Garrow, and therefore Yoda by implication, have been accused of child trafficking in China.  Here is an article by the who wrote on February 22, 2015, INCREDIBLE: Ex-CIA Agent claims Obama had Breitbart and Clancy Killed.  There are many more such articles on the internet with regard to Jim Garrow, if you want to read further about this man.

In the audio, Steve Quayle-The Death of Justice,   Rick Wiles and Steve Quayle have made an astounding assertion of MURDER without any evidentiary proof.  And because of the lack of facts, they interject into their accusation a bunch of unfounded accusations made in the past by Jim Garrow. We observe the relationship of Garrow and a government operative named Yoda.  All of these men have had a close working relationship with Doug Hagmann.

And finally, note that Wiles and Quayle declare America to be run by fascists and Nazis, which of course leads into promoting Steve Quayle’s most recent book.  If you look at the script of MURDER HE WROTE, Steve Quayle is trying to use this platform to inject fear into someone; other Federal Court judges, perhaps?  Other people he personally dislikes, who refuse to be silenced, because they have evidence of wrongdoing?

These men have not honored the memory of Justice Scalia.  What they have done is to use his death for their own self-serving  base motives.  Certainly, they could have examined all sides of this story in an objective manner, without coming to the conclusion that this death could only be MURDER.

UPDATE: 2/18/2016  Someone just emailed me this article on the pillow controversy.

UPDATE:  4/28/2016 A reader sent me these two links on Prazor, the new platform which Rick Wiles was creating at the time of this article, and which was obliquely referenced in paragraph one. The link to this trademark is found here.