The Anonymous Vendetta Destroying Truth & Cloaking the Hidden Respecter of Persons

Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 2 Timothy 3:8

I have been pondering the documented words of Steve Quayle as evidenced by the screenshot below which is taken from John Little’s OmegaShock post dated January 12, 2017.john-little-4-2The lady causing all the trouble which was referred to in the subject line of this email is Barbara Frieseman, who on August 24, 2015 had filed a web complaint assigned number 2015-cp08241600333 with the Michigan Attorney General’s Department of Consumer Protection.  I was rereading the file of correspondence in connection with this complaint, and one of the final comments by Barbara asked, Why does a 68-year-old disabled woman have to police abuses of interstate commerce and lies herself?  I do not have the $20,000 that I was quoted by a lawyer to even start a case.  The seller has my money and I have expensive paper weights that I would take such a loss on that it is unwise to sell at this time.

Since about March 2015, I have corresponded with Barb about many subjects and our friendship is based on an agreement to disagree with each other.  One of the things I like about her is that she is very candid and humble about her own failings in life; therefore the revilings which she has received from Steve Quayle are undeserved. Because of acts of intimidation which have been made against her from several persons, she has had to make official police reports as a means of documenting these threats.

Steve Quayle has on numerous occasions reproved those who oppose him using written words, by justifying himself that he has lead 10’s of thousands to the Lord via his radio broadcasts. Apparently he is up there among the greatest evangelists known to history. Now we know that the Bible reveals that only a very few persons in human history will be seated in heaven as elders, and we know that some Christians will have more rewards than others. But despite these special honors, James 2:1 says, “My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.”

One of things which drew me to a closer examination of the Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford relationship in 2015 was their lofty disdain which they displayed for the ordinary Christian who cannot claim the same quantity of works which they boast of. If someone dares to address the aspect of quality, and the person speaking is a Christian who cannot boast of quantity, these two men deem the critic as beneath contempt. Now when it comes to works and the intents of the heart,  the Lord has his way of measuring the words and actions of the least of the flock to the greatest, so that there is an equal playing field.  One such “leveling” scripture is Luke 16:10, He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much:  and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.

Now on November 25, 2016, I was sent the message below  by someone who hid  his real identity, but he is an example of The Anonymous Vendetta Destroying Truth.  I did not approve the comment which I show below,  as well as a couple of others of his that involved sneering at one of the readers of my blog, so this matter went unpublicized until now. Look at it for just a moment and comprehend what this person was stating.meroz-comment-from-mossad-3

First, the comment heading claims that it was sent by Jacquelyn Weaver of trackingmeroz.com/author/starlitgardens. I did not write that comment.  It represents a falsification of my identity, and therefore is subject to criminal penalties. The comment was submitted by mossadalumiactive@gmail.com with IP address 93.115.95.207.  This commenter also falsified a couple of more comments mocking the name of one of my readers. Those were submitted under a different IP address, 204.85.191.30.  I also received an email at the same time as shown below giving another form of  IP address for mossadalumniactive@gmail.com.  The spelling of this email address is one letter different from the above screenshot which is missing the “n” in alumni.meroz-email-1125-2016-mossad-2The threat that was made to me was this:  Ever heard of IP address spoofing or masking.  I can make you look like me or I can pretend to be you with your ip address and do all kinds of dirty workz.

So while Steve Quayle is threatening that he is going to reveal documented  evidence in a lawsuit aimed at any blogger or internet commenter who dares to speak a word against him, one of the devils of this world is threatening to do the dirty work of planting false documentation on the internet in the name of Jacquelyn Weaver, the author of Tracking the Leopard Meroz.  Steve Quayle’s threats of revealing evidence and involving others in a lawsuit had  better represent true and authentic documents, otherwise his legal efforts may yet backfire on him. If his own attorney cannot discern between the true and false spellings of Stephen Quayle and Douglas Hagmann on legal filings submitted by their law office, one has to wonder what else is going to be presented to the Court.

Now I may be one of the least in the kingdom of God, yet Jesus Christ has assigned works for me to do throughout my lifetime.  Even before I believed in Jesus Christ, it appears that my life was already heading in a certain direction.  I can recall being on the playground for recess in the third grade, when two boys who were having a dispute came up to me.  One of them said, “Jacquie is always fair, let’s let her decide.”  And they presented me with their arguments and I decided between them.  Now I have no idea what it was about me that made them think I was an impartial judge. I was not a Christian then, but my father had introduced me to the idea of impartiality in judgment.

Years later, when I was a front-line manager, my employees liked the fact that I was fair and played no favorites. Much of what I have done in life, such as auditing bank records,  involves weighing  factual evidence against a standard.  In 1988, the Lord set me up in a situation which required me to weigh in the balances,  the top administrator of Child Protective Services in Austin, Texas. I apologize for using an example which involves me; however, since my words are in the crosshairs of Jannes and Jambres, I would like to display their folly of dismissing the lesser servants of Jesus Christ as worthless.

I have been married for 32 years, and this story I am about to tell occurred early in our marriage.  I first met my husband at a business conference in El Paso.  He lived in Houston and I lived in  Amarillo with my 4 year old daughter.    At the conference, he asked for my phone number, and since he seemed like a nice guy,  I gave it to him with this statement:  “You can have my phone number, but here are a  dozen reasons why you should not call me-I am not a catch. I am recently divorced, I have a little 4 year old girl to care for,  I receive no child support, I just bought a little house and have lots of bills to pay. There is no furniture in my living room, other than an aluminum lawn chair and I cannot afford to buy anything more for at least a year”.

Despite that warning, he called and then flew out for a visit.  When he arrived, I tossed him the car keys and said “OK, you can take me, my daughter and my little niece to the zoo and then it is lunch at McDonalds. You’re paying”.  I was 34 at the time and Gary was 47, working for a stock brokerage firm, divorced with no children, and he was used to a country club style of living, boating, a life of leisure, without any substantial responsibilities. At the end of the day, he decided that our excursion to the zoo was one of the best days of his life, and so he kept flying back to Amarillo every weekend.  Months later we married, and later we had a daughter, making us a family of four.

When we were married about 4 years, we built a little 2 story Cape Cod house in Seguin, Texas on almost a half acre which featured a creek in the back and 100 year old Spanish Oak trees. My husband traveled 4 days a week, and I served as his secretary. His travel agent told him of a little daycare in town which took care of her young daughter, and he thought it would help me get the office work done if he signed our daughter up for a couple of 4 hour days per week at this daycare.

One day when my husband was away, I went to the daycare to get my daughter although it was nap time.  Now we had been told by the day care  that we were not to come at that hour, and I understood that they did not want sleeping children disturbed.  But also I considered I had a right to go to the daycare at any time without notice, as a safeguard of my daughter.  Now one of the traits I have from my childhood is the ability to walk through the woods, observing nature, silently.  It drives some people nuts that I have this ability, because I can glide into a room without anyone hearing me.  And so the day I walked into the daycare during nap time, no one heard me come through the front door, or walk across the wooden hallway and into the nap room.

As I entered the room, one of the daycare workers, who was not my daughter’s teacher, was on her knees over the travel agent’s daughter, screaming threats at her that she was going to duct tape her mouth if she didn’t stop crying. Then she suddenly looked up and saw me standing there as a witness.    I retrieved my daughter and said nothing.  Now I am not someone that immediately launches into a tirade the moment I see something wrong.  I decided to wait for my husband to get back from his trip so I could discuss how to handle this situation, as it involved the daughter of his friend, the travel agent.

A day or so later, my husband arrived home and it was time for dinner so while he was grilling some meat outside,  I baked the potatoes and made a salad in the kitchen. The phone rang, and I answered it. A woman on the line said she was from Child Protective Services and in a loud and demanding voice she said that we had to bring our two year old daughter to the CPS office to be videotaped at 8 pm that night.   I felt as if an arrow had been shot into my heart. In hindsight,  I do believe that I blanked out portions of what the caller said, as I fell into a state of  shock over the demands made.  I went and got my husband so he could talk with her. He told the woman that there was no way we were bringing our daughter out to some strange place at 8 pm to be videotaped by total strangers.  Then he called a local attorney to find out what our rights were.

The next morning the Child Protective Services social worker came with a car full of her children.  She told them to stay in the car, but she took out her baby to hold in her arms, while she told us of the accusation which had been filed.   Apparently someone had phoned in an anonymous complaint, saying our 2 year old daughter told them that while I was away at work, her father was raping her. Now it was my husband’s turn to fall into shock. It was an impossible situation which had been told, as I did not work an outside job where my husband would ever be alone with Sarah.  We have what some call a 1950’s  traditional marriage, and other than holding our daughter, and playing with her, my husband  never changed diapers, gave baths, or dressed her. While our 2 year old daughter had wonderful language skills for her age, she could not have articulated the imaginary tale that was told.

We refused the videotaping demand, but granted an interview between our daughter and the CPS worker in her bedroom, and with an adult witness.  What saved us in the end was the testimony of our oldest daughter, who was a very credible witness at age 9. I took our youngest daughter to the doctor to be examined to see if the daycare had abused her, and was retaliating with a false report to turn the tables. It took CPS 40 days to mark our case as unfounded, and it felt like 40 days in hell. My husband became withdrawn out of sorrow, and he was afraid to hug either of his own daughters. He is almost 13 years older than me, and is from that generation of men who never cry.  When I saw tears well up in his eyes, and he turned away, I decided to take action to defend his honor.

Mother and Daughter defenders of the truth

Mother and Daughter defenders of the truth

I went to the public library and read the Texas laws on Child Protective Services, including their detailed procedures of following up on anonymous complaints. I found out the line of authority and what the official office was over CPS.  And I found out how to make an official complaint about the Social Worker, who unprofessionally brought her children to my house during her hours of duty. I wrote a letter of complaint to the highest authority, detailing how the events had transpired, and compared it with their official procedures.  Some time later, I received a letter back advising me that they had reprimanded the Social Worker.  Other than that, the letter was a total white wash. So I called CPS and asked to speak face to face with the top personnel in charge, and they made an appointment.

On the day of the appointment, I had to drive  from Seguin to Austin which is about an hour away.  Even 29 years ago, security at the CPS building was tight, and so I waited in the lobby with the security guards while someone came downstairs to escort me to their office.  I met for 3 hours with the top Administrator, a lawyer, and another department head.  I am soft spoken and like to lay out my arguments in a reasoned, orderly fashion, and they listened patiently. I wanted them to understand the impact on my family which their behavior caused, when they decided to operate on the assumption that my husband was GUILTY as accused by an anonymous person.  Impartiality was not a virtue which CPS displayed in our case.

At one point I quietly stated that the letter I had received in answer to mine was written by a person who was not a truthful and honest person.  Now the person who had signed the letter was a man, but unbeknownst to me, the actual writer of the letter was the top Administrator, a woman, in front of me.  Her face went white, and she gasped, as she confessed that she had written the White Wash.  Apparently the Holy Spirit was using my words to convict her heart of not dealing with me in a truthful and plain manner.

Now my main points were this:  CPS has a legitimate purpose in society, as there are children who are in fact abused by those who have authority over them.  The Texas laws have prescribed sound procedures for conducting interviews, which respect the rights of those being interviewed. CPS has been given a Big Stick to enforce these laws, but it is a travesty of justice to employ this Big Stick during the first phone call. At that time at least 50% of the anonymous complaints were declared as Unfounded. In other words, no evidence whatsoever was found to substantiate the accuser’s statements. Under American law, the accused has the right to face his accuser. But because this right has been overturned by CPS laws, I told CPS that they have a legal and a moral obligation to ensure that they remain impartial while investigating anonymous complaints and it is their duty to find out what the truth is.

In our case, CPS did not follow interview procedures and treated my husband as if he was guilty from the moment they first notified us by phone. I found it interesting that in the 3 hour discussion, they only refuted me on one point, and they did that with a smirk.  I had confused some civil point with a criminal point; but since I am not an attorney, it was a rather rude display on their part.  At that time, CPS took anonymous complaints and immediately filed a report with the police, who we associate with criminal law; yet CPS’s other actions are generally in the civil area of the law.

Here was CPS’s excuse:  social workers are not highly paid, therefore you cannot expect high principles from them.  I retorted that persons with high principles will apply them regardless of how much they are paid. And I have seen this exemplified by many persons who I have met, who despite having meager resources, behave in a noble manner. Now I am the least in the kingdom, and so my sphere of influence has always been small.  However, when I managed a group of eleven persons, I was able to elevate the behavior of my employees by setting forth high standards. The key to doing this was that I showed by my own conduct what I was expecting.  I did not have a double standard.

When it comes to present day Christianity, it appears that many of the so-called anointed Watchmen leaders have a double standard.  Their attitude is Rules are for those other people. But earlier in this post, I held up just one scripture which should be pondered, despite the fact that we all fail in this as in other rules set forth from the throne of God. He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much:  and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. (Luke 16:10)

Every Christian has gifts, talents, and works which are ordained for him to faithfully employ in the situations of life which they find themselves in. I would like to put in a good word for Barbara Frieseman, who has attempted to do what is right. If you are one of those critical of her efforts, perhaps she would not have had to be involved in exposing the works of darkness of Jannes and Jambres and the lesser magicians, if you had stepped up and done what is right.

Yes, why indeed does a 68 year old disabled woman have to police abuses of interstate commerce and lies herself?

Think twice, Steve Quayle when you pride yourself in gathering evidence in which to bankrupt a few bloggers and internet commenters by involving them in the defamation lawsuit which involves your own words which you yourself documented on the internet, and spoke during your radio broadcasts.  Think twice, Pastor David Lankford when you look down your nose at the least in the kingdom of God as worthless. The Lord uses the least of his servants to confound the mighty.

The Depths of The Great Owl: Tales From Camp Cryptologic

On a dark and stormy night in MOOtana, two men huddle around a bonfire at Camp Cryptologic, staring at each other in despair.  A Third Man stands with outstretched arms holding up a lightning rod, praying for illumination.  Finally the Second Man breaks the eerie silence to launch into a rant against &*%*^, the author of Tracking the Leopard Meroz, who he considered was beneath his intellect when she thought that his recent video The Tactic of Lawfare to Silence Truth Seekers… should have been titled The Tactic of Law-ghter to Silence Truth Tellers. 

The First Man assured everyone that he was getting ready to SLAPP her.  “We are proceeding with a lawsuit against all the named protagonists” he said.  “No one can touch the anointed Watchmen; after all, I have lead 10’s of thousands of people to the Lord on talk radio”.satan-as-lightning

Suddenly a SONIC BOOM sounded from the throne of God, and the Third Man’s face lit up as he brightly proclaimed,  “I beheld Satan falling from heaven as lightning, proof that our prayers are answered! The Protagonists will become proto-agonistes!!!!!!!”

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Here at Starlit Gardens (which recently received a dishonorable mention in an on-air rant of the Second Man), recent events have gotten even more surreal than I ever imagined they could be. If you have read the QAlert of Steve Quayle and the two emails written by Pastor David Lankford referring to someone they term An Unreasonable Man, you may get the impression that this title/description has some cryptological depths to it.

Now Steve Quayle used the word protagonists to describe his adversaries, which he secretly would like to SLAPP around. The word protagonist refers to the chief actor in a play, as for example that great drama which is conducted at that infamous camp for Bohemians in California, featuring a Great Owl.  This owl is likened to Molech, the god of fire sacrifice, in a drama called The Cremation of Care.  Alex Jones once walked unhindered into that camp, and with a hidden camera, not surprisingly recorded the goings-on of the princes of this world.

Now believe it or not, there is a movie called An Unreasonable ManIt is a documentary on Ralph Nader, that father of consumer protection.  Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford have taken the phrase an unreasonable man, once said by John Little, and jumped on it as proof of his condemnation in the sight of God. Now recently, John Little has been an advocate for consumer protection, and is becoming a hero in the sight of many as he  exposed the true identity of Mike Whitestone and now that of the promoters of V-the Guerrilla Economist.

Let us examine the curse, and yes it is a Whip of Fire CURSE, spoken by Pastor David Lankford against An Unreasonable Man. Now I do not know John Little, except in the context of the candid honesty with which he discussed the Nathan Leal controversy, and now the recent revelations made on V-the Guerrilla Economist. I am not familiar with his theology, I have no idea how he makes a living, or other personal details other than that he seems to be married to a very sweet woman, and lives in Taiwan.

When Pastor David Lankford addressed an email to John Little as dear John chicken Little, I was fascinated.  Now I am known for mocking Mockers, and to find that an anointed  member of the Holy Trinity of  the Inner Circle of The Sky is Falling Radio Broadcasters is using mocking language, is well, a bolt of lightning, a purely illuminating thought.

Now we must understand that Pastor Lankford sent an email to John Little in which he signed it Sent from my IPhone.  This is a key piece of information!  We now know that Pastor David Lankford is AKA Sent from my IPhone. He accused John Little of this:  “You hid behind a key board for you are cowardice…The Bible is clear if you have ought with your brother you will go to them you don’t text them nor email them but again you hide behind a keyboard.”  In the email where he did sign it Pastor Lankford Sent from my IPhone, he reproves John chicken Little saying, “By the way Jesus did not send a text or an email people.  Christ engaged them personally which you never do because you are an apostate and hypocrite.”

Does anyone detect the hypocrisy of the protagonist Pastor David Lankford when he  messaged words of reproof using the tiny little keyboard on his IPhone?

Now really, Sent from my IPhone, did Jesus require John Little to pay for plane tickets from Taiwan to your little Koo-koo nest in America or to that Quayle nest in Montana in order to speak face to face?  Did Pastor David Lankford fly from the heights of his nest to Taiwan?  Biblical history would seem to reveal that there were no IPhones and computer keyboards 2000 years ago. Jesus could walk around Israel and talk face to face with various persons because the distances were not extensive. Unless of course he preferred Skype over texting….we could go on and on with this discussion… this strange divider of the words of God, a Scriptorian, no less, prefers texting sent from his IPhone to actual face to face contact. Hypocrite!  You are a protagonist in the theater of the absurd.

Words used to describe the Unreasonable Man include apostate, reprobate, vile, castaway, hypocrite, viper, the judge, jury and executioner, an (attacker) for no reason whatsoever, cowardice (personified), like Alexander the Coppersmith, not one in his marriage, arrogant, bigoted, self-righteous, stinking to high heaven, writing “sewage”, a deceiver, a disgrace, shipwrecked in faith, a buffoon…

What did John Little do to be so highly complimented by a Man Without Sin?  Well for one, this Man With Clean Hands thinks he is exempt from sins of Omission.  He does not like it implied that he is in anyway associated with “that vile person”  V-the Guerrilla Economist.  As I see it, another rat is trying to jump ship whenever the flag of The U. S. Code on Wire Fraud is raised on the mast. According to the Scriptorian Lankford, John Little fulfills 2 Thessalonians 3:2 in its totality.  Why is this scripture being used to bludgeon the supposed Unreasonable Man, the hero of consumer protection? It represents the return blow of vengeance of  the Commander of Camp Cryptologic, for one reason.  Do I need to say anything further?  Just who is the disgrace here?  Even if John Little is wrong in his theology, I believe that the Lord would find his advocacy on behalf of those who have been abused by the Quayle/Lankford/ Hagmann camp to be highly commendable.

Here are 3 screenshots of the emails referenced above from this article by John Little of OmegaShock:

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The Reward of Balaam the Son of Beor’s Gift of Divination: Dwelling In A Narrow Place “Where Was No Way To Turn Either to The Right Hand Or To The Left”

I.  Ambush Journalism

Over the past 693 days, I have examined and written about the fear based messages emanating from the anointed Watchmen of the  Christian Alternative News Media’s Inner Circle.  What sparked my inquiry into the nature of this group was the article published by Douglas Hagmann and Steve Quayle on February 10, 2015 called Setting The Record Straight:  Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway.  The removal of this article from the internet was noted on October 2, 2016 by Revelationnow.net in an article by Michael Erevna called Hagmann and Quayle Take Down Their Lies “Setting The Record Straight”.

Much of the theology which is promoted by these radio hosts represents a significant departure from the Bible, even when they directly quote the Bible. At the heart of Steve Quayle’s messages are the prophetic visions and words given to Steve from 1987 to 2014.  These words have been published at his website, stevequayle.com  in a sidebar linked here.   Perhaps it is time to ask, as Ezekiel 13:7 asks, Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD  saith it:  albeit I have not spoken?

Balaam whipping his donkey because he failed to see the angel of the LORD standing with sword raised

Balaam whipping his donkey for reacting in fear to the presence of the angel of the LORD with drawn sword, who was blocking the narrow path.

On January 9, 2017,  Steve Quayle posted a QAlert which he titled, My Response To the Ambush Journalism Against Doug Hagmann, David Lankford, and SQ, Concerning V-AKA Viji Varghese- By ‘A Self Professed Unreasonable Man’-which means from the Scripture-One Who Causes Injury. 

(See screenshot below.)qalert-1-9-2017-2This QAlert is Steve Quayle’s response to John Little’s written commentary on the recent disclosure of the true identity of V-The Guerrilla Economist as Viji Varghese, whose fake identity and false credentials were promoted by Steve Quayle, Doug and Joe Hagmann, Wayne Willott AKA W-The Intelligence Insider and other Alternative Media radio hosts, to the detriment of their listeners.  Because federal criminal laws stand against such fraud, Michael Erevna of Revelationnow.net, who once was a guest on a Hagmann broadcast with V-The Guerrilla Economist, decided to publish the real identity of V on November 20, 2016.

So what excuse do Douglas Hagmann and Steve Quayle offer for promoting the false credentials of V, and then keeping silent for a number of years while Viji Varghese conned the Christian community, based on their trust of Hagmann and Quayle’s vetting of his credentials?  Now that Revelationnow.com, this blog Tracking The Leopard Meroz, and more recently, John Little of OmegaShock have been publishing the facts of this situation, all we see is a QAlert from Steve Quayle saying that the Christian Alternative Media audience should trust him, Hagmann and Lankford because they have been around for years longer than the bloggers who have reported on this fraud.  It was on that basis of trust that their listeners were conned in the first place.

Steve Quayle, how about addressing the facts and the applicable criminal penalties for the fraud which the promotion of V-the Guerrilla Economist represented, in the first place?  And now once again we hear of Pastor David Lankford stepping forward to defend these unrepentant sinners, while directing his wrath at John Little in an email.  While John Little’s name is not specifically mentioned in this QAlert, he is the main target, with the lesser targets being those other bloggers who have written on the V-the Guerrilla Economist scandal. As of  yesterday, January 12, 2017, John Little of OmegaShock has written another article entitled, SPECIAL REPORT-UPDATE-Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann, which is linked here. If you are naïve about these anointed Watchmen, please read this update from start to finish.

Michael Erevna of Revelationnow.com was one of those in the crosshairs of the February 10, 2015 ambush journalism written by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle.  The other target of that article was an investigative journalist, who has since filed a lawsuit for defamation against Hagmann and Quayle. I find it ironic that Steve Quayle uses the term Ambush Journalism to defame those who dare to question the words and deeds of these self-appointed “anointed men of God”.  The truth is that Quayle knows a bit about setting up an ambush himself.

II.  The Theology of Ambush

In the following section of this post I am going to step away from the particulars of this controversy, to discuss some of the scriptures which have marked the tracks left behind by the leopard Meroz, who is a Master when it comes to setting up ambushes. This blog has in the past suggested that the language of fear based messages and the setting up of fake Insiders as a source of news within the Alternative Media is characteristic of a PSY-OP. So let us wander down that road, for discussion’s sake.

Meroz, like Balaam, is what some might call a hired gun; someone who can curse another person using spiritual bullets. Now this would seem like the way to commit the perfect crime, but in truth, it is a very dangerous method of attack, because there is a real possibility of what is called The Return Blow of the curse, coming back upon the sender.

Balaam received the rewards/wages  of divination, for both blessing and cursing. The problem for this master of the return blow  was how to overcome the words of God which demand justice.  One such scripture is Deuteronomy 27:25 which says,  Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say Amen.

Balaam asked in Numbers 23:8, How shall I curse whom God hath not cursed?  or how shall I defy, whom the LORD hath not defied?   Because the LORD would not curse  Israel/Jacob, he then advised the King of Moab to set up a snare to entrap Israel in the sin of fornication and the worship of strange gods, so that the LORD’s hand was forced to judge Israel at Peor.

Now many genuine Christians receive threats and curses because of their witness against evil and wrongdoing. Generally, the Christian is protected, unless there is need of chastisement in their life, or they are in a situation similar to Job, where higher unseen actions between God and Satan are in play.

One of the most powerful Psalms which Christians can pray when they are in conflict with wicked men is Psalm 64. It begins, Hear my voice, O God, in my prayer:  preserve my life from fear of the enemy.  Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity: who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their arrows, even bitter words: that they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not.  They encourage themselves in an evil matter:  they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?  They search out iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search:  both the inward thought of every one of them, and the heart, is deep. 

But then in verse 7 of this psalm,  the world is turned upside down for these wicked men who have created ambushes for the godly. It is the most fearful aspect of the sorcerer’s prayer, that what they have prayed will come back on them as the target.  Verses 7-10 of Psalm 64 make this promise: But God shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded.  So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves:  all that see them shall flee away.  And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work of God; for they shall wisely consider of his doing.  The righteous shall be glad in the LORD, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory.  You can be sure that the Balaams of this world have deeply analyzed Psalm 64 in order to master the skill of avoiding the Return Blow of their own words.

The book of Jude contains deep observations on certain men crept in unawares who turn the grace of God into lasciviousness. A verse or two later, Jude mentions those angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, which presumably are the fallen angels of Genesis 6.  Steve Quayle with his GenSix Productions company, his books and his radio broadcasts has explored these stories of fallen angels and giants extensively, as well as others who are prominent in the Christian Alternative News Media.

I read extensively, and read on such subjects years ago, because it is a fascinating aspect of history on this earth. But there are warnings in the Old Testament about inquiring too deeply into dark subjects, lest one become ensnared.  Deuteronomy 11:16 warns, Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them, yet here in the Christian assemblies described by Jude, certain evil men who worship strange gods were allowed to walk freely and partake in the fellowship of the saints.

The first exhortation of Jude is to “earnestly contend for the faith”, and after describing in great detail these false Christians in the church, he gives some advice on witnessing to others in such an environment.  Jude 1:22-23  says, And of some have compassion, making a difference:  And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by flesh. Over the years I have witnessed one-on-one to many a soul, and I understand those verses in the depth of  my experiences.

One example I recall was of a person who exemplified these verses in Jude, and whose personal sin nearly caused me to be drawn into a net woven by Guile. My witness was not for nought however, as I met The Art of War by Deception with The Art of Guileless Guile. But in response to my deepest concerns, the other person who was accustomed to praying in the name of Jesus, while at the very same time rejecting the counsel of God, grew more and more angry. I am still praying that the Holy Spirit would work in the heart of this person and that they would step away from standing in the crosshairs of the judgment of God.

Often those caught in a stronghold of sin are but the victims of an ambush themselves, set up by their so-called friends, their family or their employers. We have seen what happens to the  expendable elite when the sins of their higher-ups are revealed, and those down the line of authority are chosen to be sacrificed.

Now this person whom I tried to pull from the fire would be considered an expendable elite and they identified closely with David’s prayer in Psalm 26. The first two verses are integral to this psalm, saying, Judge me, O LORD; for I have walked in mine integrity:  I have trusted also in the LORD: therefore I shall not slide.  Examine me, O LORD, and prove me; try my reins and my heart.

JUDGE ME-EXAMINE ME- PROVE ME-TRY MY REINS AND HEART. This can be a dangerous prayer if you really believe that you walk through life in your own integrity.  But if in truth you are walking in sin, it will be a great affront to your pride when the Lord sends one of his lesser servants to test your words and character. One of the marks of the selfless love of a faithful Christian witness is noted in I Corinthians 13:6 as that Charity rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth. It is a sign of a lack of love to ignore another person’s sin, especially if the Holy Spirit desires you to speak and not remain silent.

Even that false prophet Balaam, who was angry over being withstood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left (Numbers 22:26), was forced to acknowledge his sin.  Numbers 22:31 says, The LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand; and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face. And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times?  Behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me:  And the ass saw me, and turned from me these three times:  unless she had turned from me, surely now also I had slain thee, and saved her alive.

The problem with Psalm 26:1-2 being used as a prayer for one who claims to be a Christian, is a very subtle one.  The verses in the New Testament which get to the heart of this subtlety are Romans 9:31-33, which say,  But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.  Wherefore?  Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.  For they stumbled at that stumbling stone; As it is written, Behold, I lay in Zion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 

It is similar to the illustration of the differences between the prayers of the Pharisee as compared to that of the Publican. Luke 18:11 says that The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. The publican who prayed in humility, acknowledging his need for mercy was the one which God justified. The word of God is as a two-edged sword and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart (Hebrews 4:12).

Over the past several years I have noted that the Charismatic churches are increasingly promoting the concept of Watchers and Watchmen as a gift and calling of the Holy Spirit. Watchers refer to those holy angels in Daniel 4 who delivered a decree of judgment from God.   Watchmen are men who stand upon the wall of a city to warn when the enemy approaches. This Order in the Charismatic churches appears to be some sort of anointed warrior priest class, headed by a Captain.

When one examines  the NAR(New Apostolic Reformation)/Vineyard’s promotion of a concept of prayer which is called Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare (SLSW), it is observed that it represents a military style of attack against  unseen rulers of the Satanic principalities of this world, whether it be cities, states, or nations. Unity, power, strength and commanding authority are the hallmarks of this approach to prayer, versus the humility which normally accompanies the prayers of the individual.

The Cross of Lorraine aka the Patriarchal Cross: The Double Cross associated with the Knights Templar Crusaders

The Cross of Lorraine aka the Patriarchal Cross: The Double Cross associated with the Knights Templar Crusaders

That such entities are real and have rule over principalities can be found in the Bible; for example, the Prince of Persia referred to in Daniel was from the unseen spiritual realm.  And so in my conception of a fallen angel named Meroz, which I use as a motif for this blog, I point to Judges 5:23 as the emblem and source of sin of a warrior sorcerous class of priests who wield the sword of guile and ambush against the genuine Christian who is reproving works of darkness.  Judges 5:23 says, Curse ye Meroz, said the angel of the LORD, curse ye bitterly the inhabitants thereof;  because they came not to the help of the LORD, to the help of the LORD against the mighty.

Note that it was the angel of the LORD who also stood, with drawn sword, to confront Balaam, because his way was perverse.

I am a Baptist and so I was taught that my final authority is Sola Scriptura. Baptists have their inherent set of sins; legalism is but one. I first discovered the priesthood of Meroz in the Baptist churches where masculine authority is a dominant trait, and membership in fraternal lodges is common.  Baptists who pray in earnest will have some experiences which might be termed “charismatic”, but generally  they have been taught that it is wise to test the spirits.

I have noticed that many of  those who identify themselves by name or practice as Charismatic or Pentecostal, often go beyond the boundaries of the Scriptures by exalting their dreams and visions, and there is little authority in these churches to withstand their abuses.  Most false prophets who are women are given great license in the Charismatic churches. By definition, false prophets are worshippers of strange gods(Deuteronomy 13).   The Charismatic churches, as a rule,  defy the warning given in Colossians 2:18-19, Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, and not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

The danger for the Christian is to go beyond the walk of faith, and to enter into the unseen world of sorcerers who walk by sight, seeing as gods. In the occult world egregore is a common word used to represent the collective image of a group mindset.  This Greek word is also used for the Watchers. So what might be the egregore of the Watchers and Watchmen? The late David Flynn on his Watchers website displayed in his header a Pentagon, which imagery relates to the shape of the building which houses the command and control of the gods of war of our nation.

One of the egregores of America is an eagle, and as a nation we have always stood alone and above as unique in modern history, whether one considers our Christian and Freemasonic roots, our recent appearance as a world super power, our freedoms,  our economy, or our planting of the flag of Double Headed Eagle Crowned upon the moon.

The Christian Alternative News Media radio hosts have united in one common message over the past few years, and that message is that the United States of America is about to become as Babylon, fallen, fallen, fallen.  But apart from the comparison to Babylon, the sins of  America also resemble that of Esau/Edom. Within the warning of Hebrews 12:14-17, the sin of the fornication and profanity of Esau is emphasized, saying: Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:  looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected:  for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Fornication is a sin that does manifest itself in the flesh, but there is also spiritual fornication, the yoking of righteousness with unrighteousness. This Union of Opposing Principles can also be referred to as the Synthesis of Thesis/Antithesis. James 1:8 declares that a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Note that the eagle which was chosen to symbolize America has a single head; whereas the ancient eagle which was chosen to represent the highest levels of Speculative Freemasonry is the Double Headed Eagle Crowned. Thus in John 19:15b we read of that strange cry of the chief priests of Israel, who were originally delivered as a nation by Jehovah, declaring We have no king but Caesar. Caesar as ruler over the Roman Empire was a double headed eagle crowned.

The George Washington Masonic National Memorial overlooking Shooter's Hill

The George Washington Masonic National Memorial overlooking Shooter’s Hill

Several years ago my husband and I visited the George Washington Masonic National Memorial in Arlington, Virginia. That strange building was modeled after the Pharos lighthouse of Alexandria and has walls so thick that it feels like being inside of a tomb.  The day we went there were few visitors, so we walked up and down the stone staircases by ourselves, peering into the various lodge rooms. Finally a bus arrived with a small group of visitors and we decided to join them in a guided tour of the upper floors which feature an outdoor over-look, a library, and a museum on the life of George Washington.  There stood a large banner displaying  Double Headed Eagle Crowned, and I looked at it in wonder. This symbol represents the higher degrees, but especially the Supreme Council 33 degree, and a formal title is given: The Supreme Council (Mother Council of the World) of the Inspector General Knights Commander of the House of the Temple of Solomon of the Thirty-third degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry of the Southern Jurisdiction of the United States of America.

House of The Temple in Washington DC-Supreme Council 33 Southern Jurisdiction

House of The Temple in Washington DC-Supreme Council 33 Southern Jurisdiction

In the world of the occult, titles and names are paramount and they have a numerical equivalent which ties them into the world of fallen angels.  Genesis 6:2 (a half sentence) says, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. The uniting of fallen angels and women produced giants, the men of renown mentioned in mythology. While Freemasonry is masculine, there is a feminine element. The egregore of the Supreme Council 33 as a double headed eagle is referred to as the Mother Council of the world. Likewise, the book of Revelation highlights a Mother of harlots, Mystery Babylon, who fornicates with the kings of the earth. Now the body of this double headed eagle is one, and this reminds me of Matthew 19:6, which says, Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.  What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

The two heads of this eagle are watching, and held in its talons is a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the tree of life. 

Double Headed Eagle Crowned with motto Deus Meumque Jus: God and My Right

Double Headed Eagle Crowned with motto Deus Meumque Jus: God and My Right

 

The motto is Deus Meumque Jus, meaning God and My Right.  The Double Headed Eagle Crowned reveals the Sephiroth of Justice joined with the Captain of the Watchers/Watchmen.  This marriage is a union of opposing principles creating the double mind of  unsaved mankind or of counterfeit Christianity. The Captain of the Watchers has a warrior mentality;  the personification of Guile waiting in Ambush, like the man of Psalm 10.  The New Testament declares that Christ cannot be yoked with Belial, nor can Righteousness be yoked with Unrighteousness.  The body of Christ joined with the Head of Jesus Christ represents marriage at its perfection: Love, purity, and holiness without which no man shall see God.

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With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his. Job 12:16 This scripture is talking about the LORD; but the counterfeit god has these traits to a lesser degree.

This double minded eagle is portrayed in Obadiah 1:3-4, The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee,thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?  Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.  Another scripture which is a second witness to this declaration of God is found in Jeremiah 49:16, Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill:  though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the Lord.

In conclusion, Take heed to  yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them. (Deuteronomy 11:16)……. So that you might say in truth, these words from Psalm 124:6-8: 

Blessed be the LORD, who hath not given us as a prey to their teeth.  Our soul is escaped as a bird out of the snare of the fowlers:  the snare is broken, and we are escaped.  Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth.  

 

 

 

 

 

Where Have All The Drama Queens Gone? The March Dallas Hear The Watchmen Conference Is A Hard Act to Follow For the Knoxville Event Organizers

Mike Whitestone AKA Mike Kerr's Challenge to stay out of jail

Mike Whitestone AKA Mike Kerr once again tempting Fate

Mike Whitestone AKA Mike Kerr

Mike Whitestone AKA Mike Kerr

It would appear that many are contemplating the upcoming September 30-October 2, 2016  Hear The Watchmen Conference in Knoxville, Tennessee, as I see an upsurge in the readership of this blog’s dozen or so articles on the first conference, which took place in Dallas last March 18-20, 2016.

That first Hear The Watchmen Conference had featured 9 key speakers, Paul McGuire, L. A. Marzulli, Pastor David Lankford, Michael Boldea, Russ Dizdar, Jon Robberson, Gregg Jackson, Coach Dave Daubenmire and Pastor Flip Benham.  In addition, the emcees for the Dallas event were Doug and Joe Hagmann, John B. Wells and Sheila Zilinsky.  The names highlighted in bold print are those who are not on the roster for the Knoxville conference.

As they stood by the sullied reputation of event organizers Mike Kerr AKA Mike Whitestone and his wife Jeannie Moore/Kerr, the missing participants from the Knoxville conference displayed a loyalty unmatched in the Shakespearean-style dramas of the Merchants of Christian Alternative Media.  Also missing from the new roster of speakers is Steve Quayle, who for a short time was shown in the photo lineup of the Knoxville conference.

As befitting the short history of the Hear The Watchmen Conference,  the scripture chosen to highlight the Knoxville event is “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few”.  (Matthew 9:37).  Below is the roster of speakers of the September Hear The Watchmen Conference:

The Laborers in the Knoxville field

The Laborers in the Knoxville field

Last spring the first conference generated much interest due to the controversy which arose when Nathan Leal reproved the New Age heresies of Dr. Ted Broer.   As a result of listening on December 18, 2015, to that particular Hagmann/Broer interview, Nathan Leal made an attempt to deal with the heresy issues with the organizers of the Hear The Watchman Conference, as both men were scheduled to speak on the same platform. When that discussion failed,  Leal issued a letter of resignation from the conference on December 23, 2015, as a matter of conscience.

Subsequently, Dave Hodges on his Commonsense show defended Dr. Ted Broer’s version of events.  In the meantime Donna Leal had mentioned in late December that they had been threatened with a lawsuit regarding “fair use”.  I am guessing this had something to do with the audio created by Nathan Leal explaining precisely why he had disagreed so strongly with Broer’s theology.  Leal had wisely used sound bites from the radio broadcast so that the listener could hear what had been stated. By January 8, 2016, this audio had been removed from Nathan Leal’s website.

John Little of Omega Shock  defended Nathan Leal, and provided key information on the behind the scenes attacks against Leal which had resulted when he publically stated his reasons for separating from the Hear The Watchman Conference. On January 4, 2016 in response to this incident, I posted Kudos to Nathan Leal of the Watchman’s Cry for Standing Up (For a Few Days Anyway) to Dr. Ted Broer, Hagmann and Hagmann and Dave Hodges.  I was quite surprised by the high numbers of readers interested in this particular incident.  And so on January 11, 2016,  I wrote another article involving Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford, who were pressured to publically comment on the underlying causes of this controversy.

On January 28, 2016 I posted Cloven Tongues of Strange Fire:  The Continuing Controversy of the Hear The Watchmen Conference, and two days later on January 30th again posted another article called, The Sins of Christian Marketplace Conflicts of Interest:  or when Doug and Joe Hagmann, Did You Intend to  Release The Results of Your Background Investigation of the Founders of the Hear The Watchmen Conference?

Eight more articles ensued discussing  the shady fund-raising history of the fictitious name Mike Whitestone AKA Mike Kerr and his wife Jeannie Moore/Kerr and their GOFUNDME account, as well as Doug Hagmann and John B. Wells’ attempt to defend the duplicity of Mike Whitestone.  Other articles can be found on this blog on the speakers and persons connected with the first conference including Jon Robberson (The Hollywood Insider), Paul McGuire, Flip Benham, Sheila Zilinsky, Pastor David Lankford, Steve Quayle, Dave Hodges, and  Dave Daubenmire, who dresses in a baseball oufit, who I noted was a key defender of tax fraud Dr. Dino.

When the Dallas conference was concluded, a roster of possible participants for the Knoxville conference was shown, including a photo of Steve Quayle. Since he will not be present, I note that one of the speakers added to the current line-up is another drama queen,  Anthony Patch.  On  February 15, 2016, I wrote about his strange antics in a post called The Real Reason The Men in Black Tried to Silence Anthony Patch.

Without Douglas Hagmann, Sheila Zilinsky, and Steve Quayle to bolster the second Hear the Watchmen Conference, it would appear that this upcoming event in Knoxville, Tennessee, will be just one more dreary  conference. Perhaps Russ Dizdar might prove to be interesting, particularly as one attendee in the Spring conference who refused to clap at his speech, was ousted as a possible terrorist suspect.  I may yet examine all of Dizdar’s material in-depth, having only perused through some of his audios.  Of note is that this month someone used my email contact information, without my permission, to subscribe me to Russ Dizdar’s newsletter, notices, book discounts, and upcoming event notices.

A short summary of key events given below will remind my regular readers that the brouhaha associated with the Nathan Leal/Dr. Ted Broer controversy represented a real crisis in the inner circle of Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle.  Nathan Leal had for some time been a featured repeat guest on the Hagmann show, but his brief stand against the heresy of another Hagmann guest represented a breach of the code of loyalty of the brotherhood of this Alternative Media universe. Into the breach jumped Dave Hodges to defend Broer. And then on January 7, 2016,  Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford publically commented on this situation, due to the pressure from their inquiring listener base.

John Little then defends Leal, and brings to light the unsavory actions of the conference organizer Mike Whitestone, who is trying to distance himself from critical newspaper articles written exposing his fundraising tactics under his real name Mike Kerr.  His wife’s toffee business is a sponsor of the Hagmann broadcast.  On February 20, 2016 I wrote an article called The King of Jousters, John B. Wells and his ARK Knight-errant, Sir Douglas Hagmann give a Private Exhibition of Their Prowess.  In this article as well as others, I transcribe the audio of the men defending the shady actions of their friends who partner and promote each other in the Alternative Media. On March 2, 2016 Douglas Hagmann ranted on air against bloggers who transcribe his every word.

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Note the New Sensitivity to the complaints against the Event Organizers who are known for their gross commercialism of the needs of Veterans and Christians. In addition to promoting this conference, Singing Lessons are encouraged by emcee John B. Wells

Last year I asked Mike Whitestone for an accounting of his GoFundMe account and was ignored. This year he lowered his monetary goal and added that this account was set up for Jean Moore, as I had questioned the legality of using a ficticious name. I had heard that Jean Moore had married Mike Kerr and I do not know if she retained her prior surname. If not, then this is another Red Flag day for the Event Organizers who like to confuse the paper trail which those nosy IRS auditors like to sniff out.

Last year I asked Mike Whitestone for an accounting of his GoFundMe account and was ignored. This year he lowered his monetary goal and added that this account was set up for Jean Moore, as I had questioned the legality of using a ficticious name. I had heard that Jean Moore had married Mike Kerr and I do not know if she retained her prior surname. If not, then this is another Red Flag day for the Event Organizers who like to confuse the paper trail which those nosy IRS auditors like to sniff out.

Publicity of the Leal/Broer/Mike Whitestone/ Dallas Hear the Watchmen conference had gotten so far out of control that a diversion smoke grenade was tossed out on February 25, 2016 by Steve Quayle who had issued a QAlert headlined as Timothy Alberino and His Family Have Come Under A Defined and Very Dangerous Attack Wednesday Night, And, Had Not God Intervened, All Would Have Died.  Again in a post, I transcribed this very strange story, as told by Timothy Alberino and Steve Quayle to Doug Hagmann.

Then during the actual conference in Dallas on March 18-20, 2016, Douglas Hagmann claimed that he had experienced major problems with the TSA at the airport, that terrorist threats had been made against conference participants,  that he was forced to stay in the hotel and advised not to leave, and that the police had erected a 25 foot surveillance tower at the hotel, of which no one had thought to take a photo of.  And then again,  there was that man who was viewed as acting strangely because he did not applaud Russ Dizdar.  That man in the audience was removed from the conference as a possible terrorist.

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As is usual with Hagmann, no police reports are provided to support his story with facts. However, after the Dallas conference, the drama continued.  I want to thank the alert reader of this blog who sent me a copy of the Vancouver Canada Provincial Adult Court docket.  We must recall that the Event Organizers and attendees claimed that the Dallas conference was anointed by God and a great success.  But within 3 days of the conclusion of this God anointed event,  one of the emcees, referred to by Mike Whitestone as a Warrior Woman for Jesus, ended up on March 23, 2016 with charges being brought against her for assault, uttering threats to cause death or bodily harm, causing disturbance, mischief-obstruction/use/enjoyment of property in Vancouver, Canada.

The British Columbia court system, file number 241656 shows as the cause claimed for these actions to be fear of injury/damage by another person.  Screenshots of this event are shown below, taken from the public records of the Vancouver Provincial Adult Court:

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As the title of this post suggests, indeed the Dallas Hear The Watchmen Conference will be a hard act to follow by those participating in this month’s Knoxville event.

 

 

 

“Steve Quayle is Pumping My Fiction Like It’s A Fact” claims Author Peter Demmon

Author Peter Demmon who has a website promoting his fictional writing, The Lost Book of King Og- The Only Written Words of the Rephaim -(copyright 2016 by DEMMON) has recently posted an article concerning Steve Quayle’s use of his writings.

As a summer reading exercise, you may wish to peruse the links he provides over at reddit.com. I am taking it a bit easy this summer, so I am not providing any commentary on this issue.  Feel free to make any comments here or at the reddit.com website.

Update:  6/2/2016 The Gonteekwa twitter

A City Boy’s Nightmare: A Little League Team of Snakes

I was browsing through a large number of internet comments on the Nathan Leal/Ted Broer story last night.  Almost all of the commenters had enjoyed Nathan Leal’s past interviews on the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show.  Almost all were polite, sincere, thoughtful in their use of the Scriptures, and desirous of Christian reconciliation and repentance.

One person had noted that Donna Leal had said in late December that they had been threatened with a lawsuit over  “fair use” . In general, Fair Use has to do with the rules which define the use of copyrighted material for commentary purposes. In such situations it is not legally required to ask the copyright holder for specific written permission, but the source must be properly credited.  An example of this is the case of Nathan Leal’s audio, where he critiqued Dr. Ted Broer’s words on the Dave Hodges’ Commonsense Show and on the Hagmann Report.  Portions of actual audio clips were played so that his listeners could understand what was really said, and the tone of the discourse.

All main stream and alternative media news and commentary sites make frequent use of the Fair Use rules,  in order to flesh out their articles.  Both the Hagmann Report and The Common Sense Show also highly depend on Fair Use privileges, so it is a wonder that any legal threat against Leal would involve this particular issue.

Two other commenters in the Nathan Leal discussion made mention of Steve Quayle’s January 29th post in his Dreams and Visions section of his website.  This involved a dream of snakes, which Pastor David Lankford had related to him.  Having lived in Texas and Mississippi since 1983, I have seen many snakes in my yard; most were harmless, some were six footers with a body having an eight inch circumference, some were pit vipers, rattlers, or coral snakes. In a few instances, my husband was forced to kill a snake for safety’s sake, by directing a sharp shovel downward to cut off its head. Once or twice we had a snake in the house,  because one of our kittens had carried it inside to proudly show it to us.  After reading the dream below, my guess is that we are dealing with a City Slicker who had a nightmare.

david lankford dream jan 2016 snakes (2)It was interesting to me that a number of the polite supporters of Nathan Leal  thought that Lankford and Quayle’s  negative use of the term “snakes” was meant as a reference to them. Lankford says initially that these snakes were friendly to them,  so that “you can even pet them”. Many of these Leal supporters had been regular listeners of the Hagmann Report, until the Leal/Broer controversy forced them to take sides.

Lankford says that these snakes were all the same, but different sizes.  This he interprets to  mean that the snakes were the same, but had “different platforms”.  He tells Quayle that “we were going to kill them”.  Different platforms?  You mean that some made comments via the chat rooms of Blog Talk or You Tube, or via forums or blogs?  I gave a sigh of relief when Lankford had said that some were friendly to them-that would certainly rule me out as a target of this dream.  Then he infers that these snakes, which were in the House of the body of Christ, were playing on Little League Teams and causing a mess.  And Steve Quayle thought that this strange quagmire of anxieties was something that needed to be shared with millions of people?

According to Lankford this mess is about to come to an end soon, through the use of ammunition of a lesser caliber, once he is done preaching on Jonah. Steve Quayle has the last word as always.  He warns,  APPLY THIS TO LATEST ATTACK ON DAVID AND I- TAKE IT TO THE LORD IN PRAYER! “SLANDER TO THE HEART” IS WHAT A BULLET TO THE HEAD IS LIKE- YOU CAN’T RECALL YOUR BULLET (SLANDER) ONCE THE HAMMER DROPS!  This comment by Quayle is not part of the dream (we hope).

So what was the latest attack prior to this particular dream?  Was it John Little discussing Nathan Leal’s experience with the Hear the Watchmen conference?  Was it Tracking the Leopard Meroz, who the day of the dream posted Cloven Tongues of Strange Fire:  The Continuing Controversy of The Hear the Watchmen Conference, which made mention of both Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford?  Was it someone who had sent them an email, asking them to repent?

Let us finish this post with a link to Rebel Planet Dispatch’s Marcel Cousineau, who wrote an excellent commentary on January 30, 2016 called Simple Biblical Insight Into David Lankford’s Dream.  This post displays interesting insights, and is written with a heart of brotherly love. I hope that no one would classify Cousineau as a snake in the house of the Lord, deserving of gunfire from those anointed Watchmen, Lankford and Quayle. Maybe we should all just slither away, as the low caliber bullets start to bounce off the walls.

Cloven Tongues of Strange Fire: The Continuing Controversy of The Hear The Watchmen Conference

Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own:  who is lord over us?  Psalm 12:4

PREFACE:  The book of Acts 2:1-11 makes it clear that on the day of Pentecost, when those in one accord who were filled with the Holy Ghost  “began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance”, they were not speaking gibberish, but in known languages. If you are unfamiliar with the whole body of scriptures which deal with speaking in tongues; one discussion can be found at the berean research institute.com site linked here. It is interesting that the divisiveness of the tongues issue is commented on, in the first hour of the Hagmann Report which had aired on January 6, 2016 entitled Fear of the Lord is absent in the land. A transcription of this first hour can be found in my January 11, 2016 post, if you desire to examine the context in which I extract the following observations.

ON JANUARY 6th, STEVE QUAYLE voiced his opinion as to the underlying reason why the Nathan Leal/Dr. Ted Broer controversy had resulted in division within the Hear the Watchmen conference scheduled for Dallas in March of 2016.  He says, “This whole thing went wrong because a, a, a, how do I say this, you can be sincere and sincerely wrong.  But a well meaning couple wanted to have a conference similar to Whitestone.  Now since I was involved in Whitestone and Pastor Lankford was there and many people are listening, I will share with you why Whitestone worked.  Because the men who came there were in agreement.  They were in agreement, number one, in the Holy Ghost, and everybody who was a speaker was baptized in the Holy Spirit.  It wouldn’t have done good to put me and some ah Baptist minister,  I’m not taking away from the Baptist minister, who speaks that that speaking in tongues is of the devil, together.  But we have a united purpose.”

A paragraph later Quayle adds, “…but it was duplicated wrong.  Of all the people that could have asked me, could have saved themselves, spared this whole thing and I’m not saying, I have all the answers.  But I am saying, I didn’t have this answer.  The need did not constitute the call.  And by the way I have basically shared everything I’m sharing publicly with the individual ah ah in an email, and his attitude was one of humility and repentance, OK?”

Some of what Mr. Quayle says is not clear to the casual listeners of this Hagmann Report, because he does not precisely identify the persons he is referring to.  But he described the Whitestone Remnant Conference as successful because the sponsors and speakers were united; whereas the upcoming conference of Hear the Watchmen appears to have had a hidden element of division, which unfortunately became apparent when one speaker publically reproved another speaker.  Thus in hindsight, it would appear that the conference founders were lacking in discernment when they selected their original speakers’ line up, because unity in the Holy Spirit was not present.

Amos 3:3 asks the rhetorical question, Can two walk together, except they be agreed?  Now what is interesting in this discussion of unity, is that Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford, who always present a united front, represent two different viewpoints in this matter of what constitutes walking in agreement with other professing Christians.  

In this same radio broadcast, just minutes before Steve Quayle speaks,  Pastor David Lankford says this:  “Marvin Rosenthal is a good friend of mine.  We were coming back from Israel and we were sitting on the tour bus going back to the airport.  He looked at me and said, David, let me ask you a question. What is your affiliation as far as denomination?  I said, well brother Rosenthal, I am a Pentecostal.  He looked at me and smiled real big and he said, That’s why I’m very careful now how I pick my fights.  Because I support the ___?( Note, I could not discern the word here, when I transcribed the audio) mission work in Israel.  He’s a good Baptist brother.  He doesn’t believe in talking in tongues but I do.  But you see I can work with that man and because the man happens to have wisdom to say you know what?  this man helping me do mission work in Israel, though we disagree with this little doctrinal thing we’re not going to fall out over it.  And this is what happens.”

So while Pastor Lankford is able to walk in agreement with someone who does not speak in tongues, Steve Quayle illustrates one of his points on the subject of unity by emphasizing that  he could not walk in agreement with a Baptist minister who thought tongues are of the devil. (Now there is an interesting difference of opinion, waiting for just the right opportunity to split the foundation of Unity wide open, if I ever saw one.)

As a Baptist who has witnessed two egregious church splits, I know how a little crack in the foundation stone can become a great divide.  The Song of Moses in Deuteronomy 32, describes many examples of division and was written “that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel” (Dt. 31:19). One rock split is noted in verses 4 & 5, “He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment:  A God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.  They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children:  they are a perverse and crooked generation.”

The original speakers list of the Hear the Watchman Conference, has been modified to remove the names of Nathan Leal, Dr. Ted Broer and Sharon Broer.  Currently, Russ Dizdar, Michael Boldea, Jr., Josh Tolley, and Sheila Zilinsky have been added to the roster.  Presumably, Unity has been restored, right? They are all walking in one accord, and speaking with the tongues of fire of the Holy Spirit, right?  There is no possibility that strange fire has been used to burn the incense which now ascends from the golden altar of their prayers, right?

So why are we discovering another split in the foundation of this conference? In this continuation of the Nathan Leal/ Dr. Ted Broer controversy, we find an article was written January 15, 2016 by John Little of Omega Shock entitled Sin in the Church.  He begins with a lament for the sin he has witnessed in American churches, and then proceeds to comment on what he observed when he first heard about the Leal/Broer controversy. Some of John Little’s comments which I have excerpted are as follows:

“Unfortunately that experience leads me to the belief that we are allowing Nathan Leal to be unfairly brutalized.  And yes, I really do mean ‘brutalized’.  To be fair to those that are doing the ‘brutalizing’, I doubt that they were given the whole picture.  Their anger and wrath were inflamed by weak Christians, and a man who has engaged in heresy and deception.  That man of heresy and deception is Ted Broer.  I only name names when the evidence is incontrovertible.  I’ve had misgivings about Ted from the first day that I heard him speak.  But, my operational area was different from his, so I left it to others to deal with.  Unfortunately, I was requiring Nathan to deal with this-and take the heat.…”

“Ted Broer has chosen to be in the limelight and has also chosen to preach heresy, and then lie about it.  His sin is obvious and clear.  Withholding his name would be a sin on my part. Here are the sins and heresies that I have observed:  Ted Broer made claims about Nathan Leal that were not true.  Nathan came to Ted in peace and concern, and Ted responded with anger and retribution.  Nathan’s concerns were valid and correct.  Ted lied.  Furthermore, my suspicion is that Ted has engaged in a whispering campaign in an attempt to impugn Nathan’s reputation…..It is impossible for there to be so much smoke, without a fire.”

John Little describes why he considers Ted Broer’s statements on The Hagmann Report to be heresy.  He then goes on to say, “People were upset with Nathan Leal because his exposure of those lies has put the conference in Dallas in question”.  And then John Little makes some suggestions about how the people contributing to this situation might make amends.

On January 22, 2016, John Little wrote another article entitled Love of the Truth and Cognitive Dissonance.  At the end of the main body of his commentary, he provides an update on the Nathan Leal controversy to those who had made further inquiries to him.  Some of the interesting excerpts of his statements are as follows:  “Nathan Leal is NOT GUILTY of ANY of the charges leveled against him. Up until this past week, I had been thinking that the largest part of the guilt fell upon the shoulders of Ted Broer.  To my dismay, I have found that this in not the case.  And yes, the proper word is DISMAY.  I am incredibly grieved that there is another name that is at the heart of this.  This person lies within the organization bringing about the HearTheWatchmen conference in Dallas, March 18-20, 2016.”

“I do not believe that the speakers at this conference understand the true nature of this person.  If they did, I do not think that they would have signed up to be a part of it.  Unfortunately for him, some of those speakers are beginning to find out and have been threatened by him.  You will notice that three people have disappeared from the original roster of speakers.  I believe that you can do the math.  Let me be clear that I would not have known about this person, unless he had publicly attacked me, making false claims. When he did that, I began to see a deeper corruption at work.  And then, some of you stepped forward – privately and publicly –  with important information.  I am very upset by what I have uncovered.

“….Well, there’s worse than Ted Broer.….Allow me to also leave a message to the person at the heart of all this:  Do not threaten me with a lawsuit.  I will go public with any and all communication that you and your representatives make with me.  If the person at the heart of this case, repents and resigns, I will do my best to soften the blow.  I do not wish anyone to feel hurt, not even those who are guilty.  But, I love the truth, and I will tell the truth.

If you are interested in following this controversy, it is important that you read the above two links to John Little’s articles, so as to understand the entire context of his commentary on this issue.  I have excerpted parts which I found interesting, but Little’s entire posts display his theological analysis of this particular situation. In general, I agree with most of his observations; however, Nathan Leal is a problem unto himself when it comes to his dreams and prophecies and his long-time association with the Hagmanns. Even if this current rift which has come to the surface were to be cemented over, there still remain the cracks in the foundations of the underlying  Charismatic theology, which represent departures from the Scriptures as a whole.

What many people have discovered when they attempt to discuss such matters with some of these Christian Alternative Media stars, is that they are blocked, censored and threatened.  This particular Leal/Broer controversy is just one such example.   While I give Leal credit for bringing this matter to light, he quietly stepped back into the darkness after a very short time in the public view. His articles on who are the real Watchmen are not pointed enough, given that he had been in the Inner Circle of Trust of the Hagmanns, as a repeat guest over a long period of time, and had been a silent partaker in their sins as Watchmen who claim they were anointed of God.   To my knowledge, I have never heard Leal speak out on  behalf of  those other Christians who were publicly reviled for speaking the truth about the actions of  The Inner Circle of Trust.

UPDATE 1/29/2016 John Little at Omega Shock has written a new post called My Report on Nathan Leal

The Script Written in Blood of the Coming War of Christian Vs. Christian

Pastor David Lankford has long referred to himself as a Scriptorian.  I was once discussing this fact with another person and we got into a slighty humorous but fruitless discussion of the definition of the word Scriptorian.  I understood it to mean a person who liked to do calligraphy, like the monks of old time who decorated copies of the Bible. scribe The person I was speaking with thought it meant an expert on the Bible who had memorized scriptures. The problem with the word scriptorian is that it cannot be found in the largest and older dictionaries, at least in the main library I wander through.  On the internet, I found two people arguing about the definition, and one of them kept saying that he couldn’t find the word in the dictionary either.   Jack Van Impe was for years referred to as The Walking Bible, because supposedly he had memorized the entire Bible; but I can’t recall anyone referring to him as a Scriptorian.

When I entered the word into an internet search engine, I found that this word is widely used by the Mormons.  I did locate one Primitive Baptist church site which had a glossary of old time church slang words used down here in the south, and the word scriptorian was mentioned.  In this latter day sense, the word means someone who memorizes a great deal of scripture, and a Master Scriptorian is someone who memorizes even more than that, but no one defines what quantity must be memorized in order to achieve this notable title. Coming from a Baptist background, we had pastors which recited the scriptures by memory in their sermons, as they paced back and forth before the congregation, or wandered down the aisles preaching to the back row.

In my case, I am not good at rote memorization. In the fifth grade we had to memorize the Gettysburg Address, and I could not get past the second or third sentence.  The day I had to prove myself before the teacher I began to cry, and my best friend asked what was wrong.  “I can’t remember the Gettsyburg Address”  I wailed.  “Ahh, so what?  What does it matter anyway.  I didn’t even try to memorize that thing”, she said.  That day I was set free.  I started to question the importance of what I had been told was required of me.  So when I had been told to memorize the Scriptures by rote, I took another approach which has served me well.  I decided to take a verse and try to understand it so thoroughly that my heart knew the words intimately.  As I read the scriptures through, I began to discover that my mind was creating an in-built concordance which allowed me to locate the placement of certain key verses in the different books of  the Bible.

So why am  I even bringing this subject up? Well, in the January 6, 2016 Hagmann Report which I transcribed here, Lankford, the self-proclaimed scriptorian,  quotes some twenty plus sections of the scriptures as he criticizes those who criticize him.   In the same radio broadcast,  Steve Quayle also reproves some unidentified persons for thinking that Doug or Joe Hagmann ought to know the Bible, saying that neither has ever claimed to be scriptorians. So here we see the use of this word scriptorian, whose precise meaning we have to guess at,  which is used by both Lankford and Quayle to establish levels of  Biblical expertise.

This raises the natural question as to why Doug Hagmann, who once attended a Catholic seminary for a period of time, has been exempted by Steve Quayle from understanding basic Biblical truths. Did he not go to seminary hoping to study the scriptures?  Does not even the average Christian so-called pewsitter have a responsibility to attempt to study the Bible for himself? And who are these people anyway who assert authority over the person in the pew through the use of nebulous titles and degrees?  Now sometimes higher education does result in a deeper investigation of the doctrine of the Bible, and such scholars and pastors are to be given double honor for edifying the body of Christ with their knowledge. However, we are warned of a group of men referred to as the Nicolaitans, who promote the doctrine of being conquerors over the church.

A  huge question mark arose in my mind,  when I first heard something which was said by Pastor Lankford at the beginning of  the January 6th radio show.  Here is what he said:  “Now no one preaches any harder against sin than myself, but I have been accused in the last several weeks of being a compromiser, of being two faced, being labile.  I have one lady who emailed me and said you need to swallow your pride.  You’ve not corrected the doctor and mast your lot with the other gentleman.  I don’t cast my lots with no man.  Moses didn’t ask who’s on his side.  That’s what Korah asked.  Moses said, Who’s on the Lord’s side?  I ask you tonight, Whose side are you on?  I’m on nobody’s side.  I don’t take sides.  I’m going to walk with God, because God is always and forever right.  God is not full of error,  his word is not full of error, and my ministry has had a shadow cast over it because I did not react.  Now listen to what I just said.  My personal ministry, I have 20-30 emails myself.  The Hagmanns have had hundreds.”

Now of course, the main point that the Christian is to take the Lord’s side, and not be a respecter of persons, is something which we can all agree on.  But for Lankford to assert his impartiality towards men, given his respecting the persons of Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann over and above God, ought to raise a few eyebrows.  Immediately, “the concordance in my mind” noted that two Old Testament stories had been intertwined like a vine as if they illustrated the same point, which they do not. Pastor Lankford does not tell his listeners that the Moses quote actually comes from Exodus 32:26 which says, “Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the Lord’s side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him”.  This is a different historical event from the Korah rebellion.  The background of the Exodus story is that Moses went up the mountain, and when he did not return as quickly as the people would have liked, they had Aaron make them a molten calf which they worshipped and sacrificed to, saying, “these be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.”

Exodus 32:31 says, “And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold”. One cannot help but notice the irony of the context of the verse which Pastor Lankford quoted, as his great friend, Steve Quayle, is certainly noted for making gods of gold, which he sells against the backdrop of a coming disaster scenario.

Now in verse 27, Moses instructs the Levites who answered the call, Who is on the LORD’S side with this instruction:  “Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his neighbor”.  Did you get that?  The Israelites sinned a great sin, and the Levites, by coming to the LORD’s side, and not being a respecter of persons, were instructed to slay their brothers.  This act established the Levites as the priest class of Israel.  Blood on the Altar, brother slaying brother; the basic theme of Tom Horn’s book Blood on the Altar, The Coming War between Christian Vs. Christian.

Now the other Old Testament story which Pastor Lankford alludes to regards Korah, who represents the rebel asking who is on his side? Although Lankford does not cite the scripture reference, this story is found in Numbers 16, and no where in this story does Moses ask who is on the LORD’s side.  Now this story  involves Korah, who is the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, gathering 250 “princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown” against Moses and Aaron. The complaint which they made was that “Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them:  and the LORD is among them:  wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?”  This is the Old Testament version of a New Testament Baptist Church split.

This matter was resolved by Moses through prayer whereby  Korah and his company were to take censers and put fire therein.  It would be the LORD himself who would show the congregation who in fact was the LORD’s chosen for the positions of authority granted to Moses and Aaron.

To summarize, Pastor Lankford has likened to Korah,  the hundreds of emailers who wrote the Hagmanns and him.  Perhaps he views himself as a sort of Aaron, in this whole embarrassing situation involving Leal and Dr. Broer.  I have read comments on the internet suggesting that Steve Quayle considers himself to be a sort of Moses figure.  Intertwined with this, is the situation of the golden calf event, where subsequently the priesthood of Israel was established based on the loyalty of the Levites to God, which was proven by the shedding of the blood of their own brothers.

There are other Old Testament references used in Lankford’s January 6th monologue.  At the very start,  he uses Exodus 20:26 to illustrate the fact that God hates the flesh. Since most of the listeners to the Hagmann radio show are professing Christians, you would think it would be natural to quote Romans 8:8, “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” But no, Pastor Lankford has chosen another Old Testament command dealing with the priesthood which says, “Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon”.  This is in reference to verses 24-25, “An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen:  in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.  And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone:  for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.”  In modern day America, the popular motif which comes to mind is the hewn stone altar pyramid on the dollar bill, which of course the Christian Alternative Media says will be destroyed shortly.

Later, Steve Quayle refers back to the prayer which had been spoken by Pastor Lankford in which he used the image of anointing oil running down.  Quayle says, “…And that’s what David prayed.  I don’t think you know the scripture but basically he was praying about the oil that ran down Aaron’s beard, the anointing oil”. Now the specific scripture reference is not noted.  I am guessing it might be Exodus 29:7, “Then shalt thou take the anointing oil, and pour it upon his head, and anoint him.”  This chapter deals with the consecration of the ministers of the priest’s office.

At the conclusion of the first hour of the January 6, 2016 Hagmann Report radio broadcast, Steve Quayle brings up the introduction he wrote to Tom Horn’s book  Blood On The Altar, saying “when I wrote the introduction, see how prescient this is”.  On January 17, 2016 he quoted this entire introduction as a QAlert over at his website, stevequayle.com.  The theme of this book deals with a coming bloody war of Christians against Christians.  Reference was also made to this very book in the article dated February 10, 2015 called Setting The Record Straight: Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway.   If you have not read this article recently, it would do well to reflect on what is established by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle regarding their self proclaimed purity as the Watchmen of God.  Also note the end quotes concerning Tom Horn’s Blood On the Altar, and the veiled threat implied. The final words are written in blood red, saying Indeed, there is Blood on the Altar.

A Script fit for the Great Scriptorians hoping to establish a new Priesthood upon the altar of the blood of Christians against Christians.

Steve Quayle as “Zorro” Defends The Man in the Ivory Tower Against E-Mailers, and Serves Up Dr. Ted Broer and Nathan Leal as Shish-Kabobs

This post today has two sections:  The first section represents my notes which I began taking on the Hagmann Report which aired January 6, 2016 entitled Fear of the Lord is absent in the land.  As I made notes, I began to reflect on what I was hearing, so I then decided to continue on by transcribing every word which was spoken.  Thus it became easier to discern the patterns present in the words,  which might be missed if one only listens to the audio.  This transcript stops when the break is taken at the end of the first hour.  The second section of this post,  represents a few of my thoughts on what I had just read, in light of what I have  been observing over the past couple of years about the Doug Hagmann/Steve Quayle corner of the Christian Alternative Media world.

SECTION ONE: Partial notes, followed by transcription of every word spoken until end of first hour of the program

At the beginning of this show, Joe Hagmann has been placed in the position of opening the show, as his father Doug Hagmann has taken his wife Renee to the hospital, because she was not feeling well.  The featured guests of this program are Pastor David Lankford of The Voice of Evangelism, International Ministries, and Steve Quayle of Steve Quayle.com The title of this program concerns the lack of the fear of God in the land, but the beginning of this audio represents the joint response of Lankford and Quayle to the Nathan Leal and Dr. Ted Broer controversy, which resulted in Leal publically  resigning from the upcoming March 2016 conference in Dallas, sponsored by Hear the Watchmen.com.

I just now went over to that website, and note that the latest inspired speakers (their words, not mine)  are Doug Hagmann, Joe Hagmann, Michael Boldea, Jr., Pastor David Lankford, Paul McGuire, Russ Dizdar, John B. Wells, L.A. Marzulli, Pastor Billy Crone, Coach Dave Daubenmire, Reverend Flip Benham, Gregg Jackson and Jon Robberson.   It appears at this time that Dr. Ted Broer has been removed as a speaker.  There is a double-starred note at the bottom which says, Speakers subject to change without notice.  Please refer to  this website often for current information.  Well, someone, besides myself and Aurora Justicia, has a sense of humor.  You won’t find that very often in this alternative universe which we are wandering through.

My beginning notes:  The image of the video shows The Hagmann Report:  Truth unfiltered.  Behind these words seems to be an image of earth, being destroyed by fire, a scorched earth policy? When Steve Quayle begins to speak, his latest book Empire Beneath the Ice is shown as well as his website. Steve Quayle’s introduction…”this night will be different, and I’m going to turn it immediately to David and then we’ll go as the spirit always leads us because we have to open with prayer.  There is so much coming against us, there is so much coming at us; it’s coming from without and within, and I think people, Joe just don’t have ah ah the right understanding of scripture because the Bible talks about not just a famine for food, but as I can share and David  will share, whenever there is a famine for the word of God, whenever the people of Light, and I’m not talking New Age now, I’m talking God’s light…that light is Jesus Christ…”

David Lankford begins his monologue discussing that “it is imperative that we pray, today people will spend 6 hours on the internet, 6 hours gossiping, and they will not spend 6 minutes in prayer; that’s the whole problem, that’s why we are where we are”…God hates the flesh, Exodus 20:26 tells how Moses was to build the brazen altar with a ramp, rather than steps,  so that God would not seek the nakedness of the priest as he walked up.  Lankford prays, asking for wisdom.  He says that “I don’t want people to hear what I have to say, I want them to hear what God has to say”.  He quotes the first part of Revelation 2:17 about having ears to hear.  I ask, since there are several Bible verses which quote this same phrase, why did he choose Rev. 2:17 which in the unquoted part of the verse refers to a white stone, as in Whitestone conference?   Lankford makes this interesting statement, “…if I made the wrong decision, if I did the wrong thing, I could obliterate the church.”  Now I have lived through two very ugly Baptist church splits.  I attended one Independent Baptist Church that had been split three times before I arrived, and the result was that there were three other churches in town which were born of those church fights.  So the above remark is a curiosity to me, and as I start to listen closer, my notes  become more word for word, until I find myself transcribing every word spoken.

Pastor David Lankford:…I pray that everything said tonight would be received in the spirit of Christ and the love of God.  Put a watch by my mouth, put a watch by Steve’s mouth, put a watch by Joe’s mouth, that we do nothing that would be harmful or detrimental to the body of the Lord Jesus Christ.  Father, there is already enough damage that has been done.  We pray tonight that you would bring healing to the body of for you’re the head and the church is your body….and that clarity, understanding and that profound wisdom will be presented tonight and that accuracy in your word and in your spirit would be declared above all things, Lord.  Keep us now in the hollow of your hand, Father, and we will give you praise for it all for Jesus’ name we humbly pray.  Amen.

I want to begin in Colossians 3:25, “But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.” Colossians 4:6 says, “Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.”  One of the greatest issues in the body of Christ is that people never bother to listen to God and rather than getting counsel from God, man’s nature is to turn to another man or another sister, or to another brother and ask for advice.  Now that’s good.  Psalm 1:2 “But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

Proverbs 1:25 “But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:” When you are shallow in the word of God, you don’t understand God’s reproof, nor do you understand God’s rebuke.  You need balance in the word of God, know fundamentals of Christianity, then you are very careful in how you deal with matters.  I have been a Pastor for 27 years, had to deal with things detrimental in the church.  I knew if I made the wrong statement, if I made the wrong decision, if I did the wrong thing, I could obliterate the church.  I resigned the church in 2012, and decided to take on “evangelist” title once again instead of pastor.  I was astounded at the emails and the letters asking me to please not to do that.  Would you please retain the title “Pastor”?  You’re my Pastor, you’re my advisor, I look to you to give me strength, I look to you to admonish me, I look to you to help me navigate through difficulties.  So I just went back to calling myself Pastor Lankford for the sake of the people, because I’m a pastor and I have a care for sheep.  They are the sheep of His pasture.  It’s my job to pastor the flock and to lead the flock to green pastures, lead the flock to still waters.

Regretfully, the ground recently has been scorched, there is not much green grass, and the waters are tempestuous, and there is not very much still water.   Not many today in the church have Wisdom, “the ability to execute your knowledge correctly”.  Proverbs 18:12 “before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honor is humility. (Proverbs 18:13 not cited) “He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him”.  So if you don’t know a matter in its totality, if you don’t know all of the details, and all you hear is what he said, she said, they said, you don’t have all the facts.  It’s a great aberration of a court of law when the plaintiff and the defendant do not have the same information.  The judge gets very upset when someone has sequestered and kept back a portion of information and not allowed the other party to have that information.  That’s called Corruption, that’s called Vileness; that’s called Wickedness; that’s called Criminality.  Why do people do that?  Because they want to harm, they want to injure and not suffer anyone to know the facts.  Now since this issue has risen over the last several weeks, I have been castigated to no end.

I have  been told I was a proudful man because I did not castigate, criticize, or impinge one man, and stand with the other man.  Well the reason I didn’t make any comments, I wanted to wait till I heard the matter in its entirety.  Because he that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.  I can say unequivocally tonight I have absolutely no shame.  I have absolutely no disgrace.  Neither do I have any dishonor in my personal life, and I have maintained my integrity.  David said, my integrity hath preserved me.  You see you can talk a lot of talk, but when it comes to walking the walk, that’s where the aberration takes place.

There are a lot of people who say they are this and they say they are that, they that said to Christ, Have we not prophesied in thy name, have we not done many wonderful works in thy name?  And he will say depart from me, ye workers of iniquity, for I know you not.  When you read that passage, the seventh chapter of the book of Matthew, you must read it very concisely and very clearly and understand what’s being said.  Many will say to me in that day, Have we not prophesied?  God did not say they prophesied, they said they prophesied.  They make the accusations, they make the connotations.  They are the ones doing the talking, and they say We have done thus and thus and thus and thus, and done may wonderful works, but He will profess unto them, I never knew you.

So what we need to understand is that a church is a body.  The church is many members and we are to be fitly joined together which makes up the body of Christ.  Christ is the head, and the church is his body.  We all have different roles, we all play different parts in the body of Christ.  But no two people are alike.  Thank God for that.  But when there is a problem in the church, the first thing that should be done is ask God how do we deal with the matter.   Don’t call Pastor Lankford, don’t call Steve Quayle.  Don’t call Joe or Doug Hagmann.  You’re supposed to get on your knees and talk to God.  Prayer is a great restrainer.  Prayer is not thee Restrainer that Paul spoke of in 2 Thessalonians 2:7, but prayer is a restrainer in a person’s life.  And I know from experience and many of you listening to me tonight you also know that by empirical knowledge and experience.

You are dealing with an issue but somehow the Holy Spirit was able to get ahold of your heart and you got on your knees and you prayed about a matter before you had done anything.  And when you stop praying and getting into the presence of God, the Holy Ghost will touch your heart, he will touch your life, he will admonish you, he will reprove you, he will rebuke you.  He may edify you, he may show you something that you don’t know yet but because you took it to the Lord in prayer, you hear Steve Quayle say all the time, Take this to the Lord, take this to the Lord, find out from God because everyone of us are fallible. I am as fallible as the next man.  The only thing redeemed about David Lankford is his spirit and his soul.  My flesh that the Lord carries will see corruption and die and go back to the earth from which I came.  But too many times as Paul said, They have a knowledge of God but they’re zealous.  Zeal is a terrible thing when it’s not harnessed by the Holy Ghost.  It can be disrupted, it can harm, it can injure, because they have a zeal.

Any of you guys that watch football have seen a football player lose his control when his temper and he suffers the whole team to be penalized and they can even lose the game, because of one stupid act.  And the coach looks at them like, I can’t believe you did that.  Why?  He lost his composure and the church today we’re too quick to react when we should respond.  I preached a message some years ago about …(general notes end, transcription begins)

I will be 61 years of age next month.  I’ve learned before I do anything for the most part meditate, contemplate, and debate in my mind.  Because there are going to be repurcussions of what I do.  You can throw one pebble in the pond, you don’t get one ripple, you get scores of them.  And so, Paul is telling in Colossians chapter 4 verse 6 let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt.  What is salt? Salt is a preservative.  Salt if it is applied to your spiritual lips will be preserve you, and keep you from saying something.  If the salt is not there, you’re flesh is corrupt and your flesh is rotten.

Isaiah 6 said when he saw the Lord high and lifted up, he said, what?  I am a man of unclean lips and I dwell among unclean people.  There was a prophet of God realizing how corrupt his flesh is.  All of us need to understand we are corrupt people in flesh and if we operate in the flesh we only reap more corruption.  Galatians 6:7 “Be not deceived God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”  For he that soweth to his spirit, he that soweth to his spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting, but he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption. You can ask God to forgive you after you have sown to the flesh, but you will still reap the corruption.  In Psalms 23 David said in verse 6, Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all of the days of my life and I will dwell in the house of the Lord.  As you live your life and you walk your walk day sowing seed, the way you know you are sowing good seed is when you look to the back of your journey and you see goodness and mercy following you.  I ask you tonight in looking back over the last few weeks what is following you?  Is goodness?  Is mercy following you?

Or is there strife, contention, clamor, backbiting, evil, disgusting putrifying sores?  What’s behind you? Why is it behind you?  I will tell you why it is behind you.  You’ve not been sowing the right seed, because God said don’t think you’re going to mock me.  You’re going to reap what you sow, and if you sow to your spirit, you will reap spiritual things.  You sow to your flesh, you reap corruption.  You’ve heard me quote this passage most of you scores of times, Romans 8:5, “For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  Because the carnal mind is enmity (or hostile), against God: it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.  So that they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Now I want you to notice clearly in verse 6.  For to be carnally minded is death.  We’ve been experiencing death of relationships, friendships, etc. etc.  Why?  Because we have been carnally minded, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  When people are spiritually minded there is life, that means there is growth, there is maturity, there is blessings and there is also peace, because of spiritual mindedness.  Now regretfully the peace has been broken, and stife and envy and clamor and backbiting has taken away the peace of the placidity.

Now no one preaches any harder against sin than my self, but I have been accused in the last several weeks of being a compromiser, of being two faced, being labile.  I have one lady who emailed me and said you need to swallow your pride.  You’ve not corrected the doctor and cast your lot with the other gentleman.  I don’t cast my lots with no man.  Moses didn’t ask who’s on his side.  That’s what Korah asked.  Moses said, Who’s on the Lord’s side?  I ask you tonight, Whose side are you on?  I’m on nobody’s side.  I don’t take sides.  I’m going to walk with God, because God is always and forever right.  God is not full of error, his word is not full of error, and my ministry  has had a shadow cast over it because I did not react.  Now listen to what I just said. My personal ministry, I have 20-30 emails myself.  The Hagmanns have had hundreds.

My ministry has been darkened.  My integrity has been questioned.  My ministry and the word that I preached has been accused of being compromised, and being two faced because I didn’t pick up someone else’s offense and go one way or the other.  And if you think this preacher is going to be sullied, and soiled and stained because of other men and their evil actions, you are badly mistaken.  Because you see before you know the matter you need to pray about it.  Now to write me an email and tell me I need to swallow my pride because this doctor is ah wrong because he’s my friend, I need to swallow my pride, can I tell you, I don’t even know the man, I don’t even know what he looks like.  But I was accused of being his friend.  And so because I had so much pride, I could not humble myself and join and cast my lot with the other gentleman.  That’s arrogancy, that’s the pride that I am speaking of.  Proverbs 8:13, “The fear of the Lord is to hate evil; pride and arrogancy.

And I have personally done nothing.  Did you know I would have not known none of this except gossipers, slanderers, and talebearers email me, phone me, and call me, I would have know none of this.  I could have went to Dallas, Texas with the cleanest, purest heart and preached what God laid on my heart and never known a thing.  Now I can be accused of slanting my sermon because I know things.  That’s what happens when you do what’s been done.  I love to preach under the unction and the leadership of the Holy Ghost.  I, I’ve preached hundreds of revivals.  I’ve preached in hundreds of churches and I’ve walked in parsonages and just set my suitcase and my garment bag down and the pastor starts and I say, Sir, Shut up.  Why you telling me to shut up?  Because do not affect my mind with your church problems.  Let God show me, use me and let me preach accordingly.  But when you spew your refuse here before I even get to the pulpit the first time you’re affecting my knowledge.

There is bliss in ignorance, not knowing, but you don’t have to worry, God will reveal the truth to men of God and to women of God, when they seek God.  And I will tell pastors not to tell me your church problems.  I don’t want to know.  Because if they need to be dealt with the Holy Ghost and the Word of God will deal with these problems.  Remember Hebrews 4:12, “For the word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart”.  The Word of God discerns people because it is Jesus, the word of Jesus, it discerns people’s hearts.  I don’t have to discern the heart, my job is to preach the Word of God and if that word is preached under the anointing of the Holy Ghost, it will prick men’s hearts.  So I don’t want the outside information because I am a human being and it will affect my obedience to the Holy Ghost, so I said I will say that while preaching someone will say that somebody’s been talking to him.  That’s why I will tell the men, keep your problems to yourself-keep your church problems to yourself.  Let God deal with it.

If there’s a right way,  there is a wrong way.  There’s God’s way there is the devil’s way.  We must deal with everything in God’s way.  And that’s why God gave us elders and gave us mature men and women who can have wisdom and any man lacks wisdom, James One and Five said, “Let him ask of God and he will give liberally he will you wisdom.  And in these circumstances, situations, we need wisdom more than anything else.  Because here’s the problem.  Irreparable damage gets done and it can never be repaired.  Did you hear what I said?

Joe Hagmann: Absolutely.

Pastor David Lankford:  You can have forgiveness.  You can have the relationship mended, the brokenness can be healed, but the irreparable damage sometimes can never be lessened or mitigated because if you look there’s a scar.  That scar is a reminder of the __? if I have a football scar in my hand, 6 stitches put into it playing football.  I am nearly 61 years of age but that scar is bad- a reminder of how I got hurt on the football field,  No, it don’t hurt no more, but I can still see the scar and I know what caused the hurt.  Galatians 6:17, “From henceforth let no man trouble me for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus Christ.  We’re all going to bear marks.  Those marks are a reminder they be good reminders or they can be bad reminders of circumstances and situations.  I want the marks to be because I fought a good fight.  I finished the course and I kept the faith.  Those are the marks I want in my body in my life and in my life and in my mind and in my conscience.  And if those are not the kind of marks you have, then you have the wrong kind of marks and you’re fighting the wrong fight.

Paul had said to Timothy in I Timothy 6:12.  Fight the good fight of faith; now needless to say there is a lot of fighting going on, but is it a good fight?  Marvin Rosenthal is a good friend of mine.  We were coming back from Israel and we were sitting on the tour bus going back to the airport.  He looked at me and said, David, let me ask you a question.  What is your affiliation as far as denomination?  I said, well brother Rosenthal, I am a Pentecostal.  He looked at me and he smiled real big and he said, That’s why I’m very careful now how I pick my fights.  Because I support the __? mission work in Israel.  He’s a good Baptist brother.  He doesn’t believe in talking in tongues but I do.  But you see I can work with that man and because the man happens to have wisdom to say you know what? this man helping me do mission work in Israel, though we disagree with this little doctrinal thing we’re not going to fall out over it.  And this is what happens.

I don’t want to lessen some of the things I regretfully heard, about error in scripture, if some of the things I heard were absolutely erroneous, egregious.  It’s totally so unbiblical it begs description, but that does not give anyone the right to start castigating, slandering, impinging  and piling on.  There is always the right way to  handle ___? and regretfully it wasn’t handled spiritually and doctrinally.  And the protocol was totally skewed.  Proverbs 14:12, “There is  a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death”. If it’s not God’s way, then it’s man’s way and that way is always going to bring corruption.  Steve, I am going to give it over to you, sir.

Steve Quayle:  Ladies and gentlemen, the issue is a really important issue, because I don’t know if it was year or two years ago we said on this very show, the sins that will destroy the body, as given to me by the Lord, were the sins of jealousy and envy.  And remember that was responsible for the same and the first murder.  One of the great travesties in Christendom, I think Pastor you will agree with, this is that a people will excuse their sin by saying God knoweth my heart.  He knows my heart.  Yes God does know your heart and hear what the scripture says, Jeremiah 17:7-10.  It’s possible to be sincere but very, very wrong.

Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is. For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters. (That’s just what you said, David), and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, in other words, it will not, the tree will not experience dirth.  For the __?  that this passage exemplifies, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall case from yielding fruit.

You have the right, ladies and gentlemen, to look at the fruit.  Here it is.  “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?  I the LORD God search the heart, I try the reins, even to give to every man according to this ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.”

I observed a broken man last night.  I didn’t get to see Doug face to face, but I was on the phone with him a couple of times in the afternoon and it’s one thing I got David probably a dozen emails accusing me of the same thing, and everything.  I want to go on record and I’ll tell you why this went wrong, and where it went wrong, and not throwing any ah ah rocks at anyone.  The problem is God’s people were told to take up their cross and follow Jesus.  Jesus said, take up my cross, follow me.  People take up their cause and follow men.  That’s what Pastor Lankford just spoke about.

The idea that ah your ministry is more important than thee ah ah the help of the body is basically a scorched earth policy.  And when there’s a famine for the word in the land, and there is, number one, God’s people don’t know the word of God.  If you don’t know the Bible, you won’t know Jesus.  And I’m sorry to say that.  You can claim you do but you’ll always resort, forgive me, and fall back to that which you think you know rather than that which God has revealed.  That’s a powerful statement.  Many men come on the scene and they will say this or that or they will claim to have dreams and dreams and dreams and visions and visions and visions.  If you have one, they have five; if you’ve got three, they’ve got thirty.  And what that is a gross sign of immaturity.

And even Michael, the Scripture teaches, the archangel Michael doesn’t bring an accusation against Satan.  But he basically says, The LORD rebuke you, Satan.  Yet accusations permeate the body, yet gross, gross ah ah I would call adulteration of Matthew 18.  Matthew 18 says, you go to your brother, and I’m going to read that scripture in its entirety.  And if he won’t listen, then you take two others, but if you’re saying to the body of Christ, I did that and you won’t reveal who the elders are then you have no witnesses.  And basically, it tends to be in what I’ve experienced over forty five years of battling in this realm, that it was never exactly that way.  Some of you women that have sent me emails you need to repent, get baptized in water, and quit spewing out bile, and I’ve said in the past, battery acid.  Battery acid is corrosive once you get it on your skin.

This whole thing went wrong because a a a how do I say this, you can be sincere and sincerely wrong.  But a well meaning couple wanted to have a conference similar to Whitestone.  Now since I was involved in Whitestone and Pastor Lankford was there and many people which are listening, I will share with you why Whitestone worked.  Because the men who came there were in agreement.  They were in agreement, number one, in the Holy Ghost, and everybody who was a speaker was baptized in the Holy Spirit.  It wouldn’t have done good to put me and some ah Baptist minister, I’m not taking away from the Baptist minister, who speaks that speaking in tongues is of the devil, together.  But we have a united purpose.

God said he wanted to heal the body.  He wanted to minister to the people.  He wanted to minister to the people.  God said I’m concerned for the faith of my sheep.  I love my sheep.  I am the good shepherd and I’m going to do something special.  And that’s what was was was meant to try and be duplicated.  But it was duplicated wrong.  Of all the people that could have asked me, could have saved themselves, spared this whole thing and I’m not saying, I have all the answers.  But I am saying,  I didn’t have this answer.  The need did not constitute the call.  And by the way I have basically shared everything I’m sharing publically with the individual ah ah in an email, and his attitude was one of humility and repentance.  OK?

So here’s where things go wrong.  I can want to do God the biggest favor in the world, I can believe I am called to do this that and the other thing.  People can even put wind into my sails and say you do really good, this that or the other thing, but unless God calls you to it, it’s a vain fleshly extension.  The spirit of God always brings redemption.  Let me say that again.  The Spirit of God always brings redemption.  He’s holy.  God’s holy.  And one of the most disparaging terms that I hear people use is the “man up stairs”.  First of all it’s a scriptural ah ah and it’s a lie.  God is not a man.  For they that worship God must worship him in spirit and truth.  Or “the big guy”.  What’s that a wrestler? A W. W. Webb? I have seen, Pastor Lankford and Joe, a complete lack of honor, of respect, I have not even seen in the arguments of this situation we are talking about.  Where’s Jesus?

Let me give everybody a practical, practical, the best thing I know after everything I’ve stumbled, fallen ah needing to repent of everything.  Look where Jesus is.  Let me make this clear.  The doctor bringing up terms like Kundalini, thirteen dimensions, challenging the humanity of Jesus Christ even to the point of almost heresy.  Jesus said before Abraham, I AM.  I do not know the man.  I have no idea who he was.  Like Pastor Lankford, I got into this.  I chose not to say anything about the conference so that there would be no um what would you say ah ah doubt cast by me.  I held my peace, and what I’ve learned is the same thing that Pastor Lankford has learned.  Only a fool judges a matter before seeing both hands play out.  Before seeing both the defense and the offense.  And seeing this thing progressing, for the record I went on record with Pastor Lankford.  I went on record with Doug, I went on record with Sheila Zilinsky, because she was troubled also, at the start of this thing.  So the point is, is that the Scripture says that the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established.  But I tried to stay in the background, until it was impossible to any longer stay in the background.  Because like Pastor Lankford, no matter what you say, once this sort of filth gets dumped on  your living room, you’ve got to clean the carpet.  You’ve got to bring the guys in with the ozone machine and you gotta ah reclaim all the damage done.

The scars are real.  And the wounds go away.  Once gossip is presented, its like a bullet, that you cannot recall.  It is a bullet.  The tongue can be a weapon or it can a wonderful highway of healing.  And that’s what David prayed.  I don’t think you know the scripture but basically he was praying about the oil that ran down Aaron’s beard, the anointing oil.  But I want to read this because this is Galatians 5:13-23, “For brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love, serve one another.  For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this;  Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.  But if ye bite and devour one another, devour means literally to eat a person alive with your tongue, and unfortunately Christians don’t even chew on their brothers, they just swallow them whole.

Take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.  This I say then, walk in the spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh:  and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, and heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, what did I say, that the two greatest enemies of the church, the true, when I say the church I am talking about the congregation of those who profess Jesus, envyings, murders, envyings and jealousy, drunkenness, and revellings, and such like:  of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, against such there is no law.

When I wrote thee introduction see how prescient this is.  This was written 3 years ago or two years ago to Tom Horn’s Blood On The Altar.  Jesus shed his blood, but you don’t have to shed your brother’s blood.  But you don’t have to worry about someone else’s reputation, worry about does Jesus know you.  And if you don’t even name His name, I’ll make this statement, you may think you know him, but he doesn’t know you.  Scripture says that if you don’t confess him before men, then will He not confess you to his Father which is in heaven.  Matthew 10:33-36.  The title of this is when the religious persecute the righteous, and the coming wars within Christianity.  I can’t say it any better than this scripture. “But whosever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth:  I came not to send peace, but a sword.”

99% of ecumenical people don’t even know the word of God.  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter against her mother in law.  And a man’s foes shall be they of his household. That goes for your own literal family as well as the family of God.  I am sorry to have to say that. 2 Timothy 3:1-5, “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.  It is pleasing to the flesh to put down other people to try to elevate yourself, especially on the devil boards. I’m sorry it’s true.  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:  From such turn away.  But brother you don’t know my heart, and I just don’t think Steve Quayle is even a Christian.  He’s mean.  I hear that all the time.  Yet if you go on the testimony section of hearing what people say to Doug and to Joe and to David Lankford and I, look not everyone out there drinks or eats Meow-mix as men, OK?

John 16:1-3, “These thing have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.  They shall put you out of synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.  And those things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me”.

Now ladies and gentlemen, in this whole situation I have yet and if anyone wants to do it and you know I would like to know if there has been any mention of Jesus Christ.  I could care less about the Kundalini Spirit.  I give every praise to God about the Holy Spirit.  The nonsense that Jesus was somehow not ah he wasn’t born of the flesh, but Mary carried this seed, and the sin passes through the man and Jesus was conceived through the Holy Ghost, that same Jesus who is with the Father that same Jesus who is in Colossians 1:16-17.  For in him and by him and through him are all things that consist.  In other words, He is the author and finisher of our faith.  John 16:1-3, “These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.  They shall put you out of the synagogue:  yea, the time cometh that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.  And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father nor him”.

It is fair to assume that people who do not even use the name of Jesus who can tear down Pastor Lankford and – I got to share something, Pastor Lankford is a pastor.  I have known him for 25 years and the fact that I even have to say this is why I had to call people and ask them to intercede for my attitude tonight.  David’s heart was right.  He said, Steve, just go with what the Holy Ghost tells you and by the grace of God and the intercessors I am doing that.  But the point I am trying to tell you is that he walks the walk, he talks the talk, the power of God is in his life.  So when you people are calling him proud, when you people tell him to swallow his pride, you’re speaking vomit and that is why I call you vomit brokers.  And for the record, I have no problem speaking that, because it is what the word of God says.  If you’re lukewarm, you don’t do the things you do.  It’s me, me, me, my, my,  my ministry, my work, my dreams, my visions, my, my, my, my.  If I’m the one who has to bring the presence of God because I am so anointed, why do you need the Holy Spirit, you’ve got it all, Pal!

The world is now and I’m going back, and to this I’ll turn it back to you Joe for the break. The world is now at a time when the bloodiest period of war and betrayal lies at the doorsteps of the Christian faith.  As the New World Church and New World Order emerge, there is considerable effort to being the spouse of evangelical mega stars to embrace a One World faith based on agreements that we all serve the same God, anyway.  This is total rebellion and heresy against the faith of the apostles and the prophets as revealed ahh as God’s and the revealed will of the living God.  I wrote this years ago.  There are two households in which this battle will be waged, and the stakes are eternal.  The first household is that of faith; brother will turn against brother and where they once broke bread together, they’ll break each other’s necks.  The religious mind of folks will be first to call for the government to do something, when it comes down.  Faith has always been persecuted by unbelief, and that is the way it’s going to play out amongst years ahead.  When you see a prominent Christian and when you see prominent Christian authors being featured in the mainstream press and talking about Christianity and Islam serving the same God, you know the battle is looming.

The last thing I want to say before we go we go to break is this, Doug has never billed himself as a scriptorian.  Joe has never made claims that they are.  By the way, this is a talk radio program.  You guys understand you keep attacking the messengers and when I see ego and when I see people saying, oh well I guess I hurt someone’s feelings, yeah?  Feelings usually can result in people dying.  A word fitly spoken in season is life.  A deadly word spoken in season is death.  So when I look at fruit, and all I see is confusion, when I see the people of God taking sides saying, I’m of this guy, I’m of this doctor, I’m of this watchman, I’m of that of that of that, you can’t be of Steve Quayle or of David Lankford because we don’t have our identity.  We’ve chosen to say, Lord, we’re sinners. And anything good in our life comes from you.  But because of that goodness that you’ve shown to us, we want to share with the world, and contrary to all the skeptics  and the people out there , the people from all over the world, are coming to Jesus.  Go read the testimonies on my website.  I put up one of the most beautiful testimonies that God has ever undertaken through anything on the radio, I believe, today.

You have the choice.  You can either follow Jesus or you can go into eternity arguing about your heart and God knowing your heart.  Yes, brothers and sisters, God does know our heart.  That’s why he sent Jesus because outside of the blood of Jesus our heart is desperately wicked and that’s why Satan is having a field today, what has gone on.

I thank each and everyone of you who has prayed for ah ah Doug, Renee, and this whole situation.  Ah, I’ll turn it over to you now Joe; I don’t know if we’re going to take a break now or not.

Joe Hagmann: Yep. We are at the top of the hour break right now.  And when we come back, uhh I want to get into more of what you guys so eloquently explained in hour one.

SECOND SECTION:  Commentary on my notes on the audio:

Whenever a person begins to compare and contrast a body of words, it helps to have a ruler by which you intend to measure the words.  It also helps to know in what context the words were spoken, and to know the general background of the speakers.  Much Scripture is quoted by both Pastor David Lankford and Steve Quayle, so the ruler I choose is a King James Holy Bible.  While any verses from the Bible are good and holy words, many of the verses which were quoted in the audio serve to obscure the facts of the actual situation, and do not get to the heart of the matter.

The immediate context of the words spoken, is the controversy which became public when Nathan Leal, a regular guest on the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show publically spoke out against another guest of the Hagmanns, Dr. Ted Broer, who had set forth another gospel of Jesus Christ on the December 18, 2015 show. Leal claimed in his own audio on December 30, 2015, that he had tried to first discuss his concerns with Dr. Ted Broer, and then others, and was dismissed, ignored and rudely treated. He therefore took his concerns to the internet “church” in his audio.  This audio was only up for a few days, and then removed, so that many persons who later heard of this matter, were not able to judge for themselves as to whether Leal’s concerns were accurately stated.

Apparently, this issue has become a hot button item, and numerous persons have emailed the Hagmanns, Pastor David Lankford, and Steve Quayle, and perhaps others as well.  I am an outsider looking in, therefore much of what I know is after-the-fact.  I would not have known at all about this issue, except that one of the newsletters I subscribe to, had a copy of an email alerting them that Leal had resigned from the Hear the Watchmen conference, and had received flack from Dave Hodges.

The background of the two persons featured in this audio, Pastor David Lankford, and Steve Quayle, involves their friendship which goes back many years. Many of these alternative media voices were first heard on shortwave radio, and then gradually branched out into the internet radio world. Both men are both close friends of Doug Hagmann, who like Quayle, used to be heard periodically on Coast to Coast AM. These three men form what I loosely call “the Trinity”, whether their presence is seen on the Whitestone Remnant Conference platform, or on numerous broadcasts of the Hagmann and Hagmann show.

If one were to diagram all of the guests which speak regularly on the Hagmann show, (sometimes referred to by themselves as the inner circle of trust), and then continue to diagram all of the other shows which those guests speak on, or have their own individual  stand alone shows, an interesting network will be revealed.  This network is comprised of conspiracy theorists, book sellers, gold/silver/precious metals dealers, prepper food suppliers, Christian Watchmen, pastors, tax frauds, fear mongering end times prophesiers, unnamed and unvetted financial con artists, unnamed “Intelligence Insiders” posing as ex CIA, FBI operatives, military generals, NSA etc. etc., giving the overall impression that we might be dealing with some sort of Psy-Op program set up by Who???

Well, we really have no idea of “who”, except that there always seems to be some sort of sleight of hand moving the walnut shells around so when we point to one, guess what?  There’s nothing under the walnut shell. In all of this we need to note that the major visible player here is Steve Quayle. Doug Hagmann runs the stage and is a primary speaker, with his son Joe assisting.  Pastor David Lankford is a major player with the Christian religious front of this operation, even holding communion services with Quayle. This is not just a radio talk show, as Steve Quayle said.

Lankford apparently got bent out of shape when he received some emails, and it would appear that one in particular was really a Thorn in his flesh.  I have no idea who this one lady is who emailed him; I don’t even know if Lankford and Quayle know her identity. I would be curious to see this email and their personal response to it, if any. But according to their testimony she, in effect, told Lankford to get off the fence and make a public stand, and if he did not he was full of pride, perhaps not judging this situation because of partiality. If she really did want an either/or man decision, that shows she was not stepping back to view the problem from the best vantage point.  The stand which should have been taken by Lankford should have been on doctrine, and it would not have taken more than 2-3 hours to get at the heart of the dispute, and to give us a public example of the pastoral office at its best.

So both Lankford and Quayle in this audio, lambast the emailers as gossipers, slanderers, talebearers causing strife, clamor, backbiting, dumping filth, vomit etc. and posting on devil boards because they have not prayed to God about the situation. At no time do they view the emailers as being led by Jesus Christ Himself to reprove their own works of the flesh.   Now what proof do we have, as listeners,that they even received these emails, what the true content was,  or that these people had not prayed to God prior to sending their messages to the Hagmann/Quayle/Lankford group?

Since both of the two men in question, which Quayle and Lankford both refuse to name,  were also featured guests on the Hagmann show; and the Hagmann/Quayle/Lankford trio “do church type services” on radio, the listeners have a right to an explanation from these men.   Nathan Leal in particular, despite Quayle knowing that he eats Meow-mix, has shown obvious signs of being a false prophet and sounding a little too servile in his tone of voice. Several persons have accused Leal in the past of plagiarism, and one who threatened him with a lawsuit testifies that Leal in fact had completely overhauled his website in response. Yet Leal was granted a platform for his interpretations time and again.  I was astonished that he could stand for anything, but in the end he slunk away under pressure.

Dr. Ted Broer, who I had never heard of, except to see his ads on the Hagmann sites, looks as beefy as they come.  That these two men had a “shoot-out”, where both were left crawling around on the floor, has saved me the time and effort of researching their audios and blogs in order to write an expose of them. Nathan Leal has removed his audio and apparently gone to sleep with the chickens in the hen house, and now that the beefy Dr. Ted Broer, has been removed as a speaker at the conference, it has been easy for Steve Quayle to skewer them, and roast them as shish-kabobs  over the fire.

When Lankford and Quayle use Scripture quotes against others, as both a sword and as a shield, is it any wonder when those same words come back later as a return blow, if the speakers themselves have unrepented sin? My personal opinion is that this whole alternative media set-up is ripe for God’s judgment.     Romans 2: 1-3, warns,  “Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest:  for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.  But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.”

The most curious thing which comes out of this audio,  is the image which Pastor Lankford paints of himself.  He says there is no one who preaches more against sin.  When have we ever heard Lankford name the sins of the persons who comprise this Psy-op, such as W, V, Quayle, Hagmann, McGuire, Wiles, Hodges, Dr. Dino and on and on? If there is a problem, they always claim it is with the listeners.

Lankford created a little conundrum in his life when he so humbly was going to resort to the title, evangelist, but because of his so-called popular following,  decided he was some sort of internet Pastor over a bunch of internet sheep. Then when one of these sheep bleats in an email, his reaction is to skin them alive, on air, no less. When Lankford then makes his money doing the work of an evangelist, and shows up at a real local church, with a real pastor, and real problems, he has the nerve to tell the guy to SHUTUP.  In spite of his years of experience as a pastor, apparently he has nothing to say which can edify the man who is on the front lines.

It is like Obama, putt-ing away on the green in the rarified atmosphere of Hawaii, having the nerve to tell some CIA or military men on the front lines to shut up, as they are disturbing his unction in his golf game. Nice little Ivory Tower that some people live in.  Most Christians, who by definition have the Holy Spirit in them, live on the front lines of life. So when some woman who emails you, Mr. Lankford,  because she considers you to be a pastor, or maybe her pastor, upsets you,  you have to call in Steve Quayle, who is not afraid to use rough language, to defend your little Ivory Tower, and cook you some chicken and beef shish-kabobs over the campfire, as well.

Well, Mr. Quayle, while I care not for your tactics, I will give you credit in that you do publically state your opinions.  You are right  about the heresy of Dr. Broer, but you should have dealt with Nathan Leal a long time ago. But I guess Leal had a purpose in this little world of yours, just like W, the Intelligence Insider, and V the Guerilla Economist, and all those other liars who force you to keep shifting around those walnut shells of yours.  All of you are just a little bit proud on a good day, and when you have a bad day, the Hubris shines as bright as Obadiah 3, “The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?”  Read the next verse which tells Who will bring you down; it is the very author of the words you continually quote from the Scriptures.

By the way, did anyone pick up the oblique advice in the little story which Lankford related, about being careful who you pick a fight with?

 

UPDATE 1/17/2016  Steve Quayle has posted on his QAlerts a copy of his introduction to Tom Horn’s book Blood on the Altar, which he referenced in the above audio.

 

 

 

 

Night of the Betrayers: The Communion of the Blood Crowned with Dirt

“For he knew who should betray him; therefore  said he, Ye are not all clean.” John 13:11

“Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son Of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?”  Hebrew 10:29

I do not listen any longer to Hagmann and Hagmann on blog talk radio, unless it is brought to my attention that there is a particular show which is of interest to my blog Tracking the Leopard Meroz.  Recently I read a comment on the internet made by barbF which reads in part, “On May 1, 2015 (a high Satanic Holy Day) Quayle and David Lankford conducted a “Communion” Service where they incorporated Dirt into the service.  This is Elemental Magic and Strange Fire-Mixing the Holy with the Profane… Everyone who participated that night put their families under the three to four generation curse of witchcraft and they need to confess it as sin and renounce the curse breaking it in the name of Jesus.” As it appears that at least one alternative news website has censored this comment, I thought that I would add my witness, and review the May 1, 2015 Hagmann and Hagmann radio show also.

May Day May Day May Day!!!

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At the beginning of the May 1st broadcast, we hear Doug Hagmann declaring that this program would be solemn; “a call for consecration, repentance, communion and imprecatory prayer”.  In honor of  the feast of Beltane, and the May Day tradition of leaving flowers on the neighbor’s door steps, Hagmann reads a commercial for ProFlowers.

Later on in the program, we are informed that the Communion Service has been planned to be performed at the top of the hour, after the commercial break. Therefore I begin to comprehend why Lankford and Quayle fill up the first hour with longwinded, self serving speeches, overturning what in a traditional church service would be a Biblically succinct exhortation.  If I had been in a church which was holding a communion service intertwined with commercial announcements, I would have walked out.  But like Judas Iscariot who would not be separated from his “bag”,  the “determinate counsel and foreknowledge” of  the trinity of Hagmann, Quayle, and  Lankford had decreed that their “solemn holy convocation” should  be marred by the thirty pieces of silver held in their hot little hands.

And as I had determined beforehand to listen to this broadcast, I could not walk out; not yet, anyway.

I concentrated on writing down the scriptures which Lankford quoted and identified by verse number, for further study. But somewhere between the beginning of this broadcast, when I noted the phrase  character assassinations, and later on when Quayle spoke of the judgment of  Ananias and Sapphira, I  observed the undercurrent of these code phrases. These phrases had been used in Hagmann’s February 10, 2015 broadcast, and in Hagmann and Quayle’s written condemnation of both Marinka Peschmann and the author of the Revelationnow blog.

Lankford began his speech by discussing Repentance.  I identified 14 verses plus the 68 verses of Deuteronomy 28, but he also quickly quoted other scriptures, which he did not locate in the Bible, for our edification. Given the proud and haughty scorn which was displayed by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle in their Joint Response on February 10th, just 80 days before, how did Pastor Lankford overlook Luke 18:9-14 which pertains to the sins of his closest friends?

Luke 18:9-14 is a direct quote of Jesus Christ: “Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:  for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.”

Prior to taking communion, as a sacrament, rather than as an ordinance; Steve Quayle introduces his dirt ritual.   Quayle emphasizes two non essential things about the dirt which he personally was using, in his manmade ritual. First he noted that the container for his dirt was square.  Secondly, when he threw the dirt on his head, he pointed out that he did it with his Left Hand. I will leave it with the reader to understand what those two words symbolize in the occult realm. Steve Quayle says, “Look at your dirt.  That’s what you were before God breathed into Adam” to make him a living soul. He does not mention that the Bible distinguishes between dust and dirt, but that is an interesting word study in itself.  Also not mentioned is that God  created us in his image;  our souls have an everlasting existence, so that we are not extinguished at death.  We have sinned against God who created us in his image, and whether or not we believe in Jesus Christ as our Saviour, will determine whether we will reside in Heaven or Hell after our death. Note that all of creation came from the dust, not just mankind. And in the Bible, dirt is more like that of clay or mire, or the contents of the intestines.

Steve Quayle, as he tends to do, gives us another rant against those who criticize him.  And as always, he dismisses them by declaring that they have not performed the charitable, evangelistic works that he has done.  Therefore he warns these critics that they should not take communion with him.  I guess he means that since he is a part of the body of Christ, and either they are not, or they are personally sinning against him, that they are unworthy to take Communion. He reminds us of his prior threats that the days of Ananias and Sapphira are coming back into the church.  Then Steve Quayle throws his dirt into the air so that it falls on top of him.  He recommends adding to his example,  a request to God, to  “Do with me as you will”.

Somehow Quayle reminds me of Judas Iscariot. When we review all of the  scriptural passages on Judas, we discover that he partook in the Last Supper of Jesus Christ.  Jesus warned his twelve disciples in John 13:10b-11, “and ye are clean, but not all.  For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean”. In verse 18 Jesus says, “I speak not of you all:  I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.” Verse 25,  notes that John, “He then lying on Jesus’ breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?” Jesus gives him a sign to show that it was Judas Iscariot.

Therefore when we see  Steve Quayle  throwing dirt upon himself to make himself unclean, he is identifying with Judas Iscariot, the betrayer of Jesus Christ.  The Diadem of Meroz (the communion of the blood) is Dirt.  Matthew 26:25 reveals, “Then Judas, which betrayed him, answered and said, Master, is it I?  He said unto him, Thou hast said.”

Steve Quayle says that he intended to keep the remainder of his dirt for 40 days as a remembrance that he was “nothing”. Since his forty days of temptation have passed, has anyone observed that he has repented of the exceeding sinfulness of sin in his heart? Of course not, as the man of Meroz revealed, he considers himself to be the communion of the blood.

Matthew 27:3-6 shows us the repentance of Judas, which is not unto salvation, saying, “Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood.  And they said, What is that to us?  see thou to that.  And he cast down the silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.” As barbF has warned for the past two months, those who partook of the dirt communion service should repent of their error. The depths of Satan are far deeper than most of us can understand.