Robert Baty, Retired IRS Appeals Officer and Christian Seeks to Break The Code of Silence Protecting Kent Hovind’s False Legal Narratives

The Code of Silence of  Hear No Evil, See No Evil, and Speak No Evil. Feigning Ignorance,    Kent Hovind and his supporters  just can’t seem to figure out why the laws of this nation apply to them.

In discussing today’s subject, the first thing that I need to explain are those three primates to the left, representing The Code of Silence employed by liars to protect their sacred falsehoods from the light of truth.   Also called the sin of willful ignorance, a Biblical illustration found in Mark 11:27-33 gets to the heart of this Oath.  This oath has not evolved much from its creation, for these verses relate that the chief priests, scribes and the elders challenged Jesus by asking, “By what authority doest thou these things?  And who gave thee this authority to do these things?”

In reply, Jesus said, “I will ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men?  Answer me.”  So these men reasoned among themselves, and understood that either answer would place them in a position that they did not want to be in. Therefore they answered, “We cannot tell.” Perhaps they foresaw the day when Robert Baty would challenge a debate with the most effective apologist for Biblical creation in the world, Kent Hovind.

This we cannot tell answer is what is referred to as willful ignorance, and it has dire consequences in the soul of the person who engages in it. Heart motives are revealed in how we answer a question, and like the chief priests, elders and scribes,  Kent Hovind and his supporters refuse to fully explain their position, which fits neither the facts or the law.  The we cannot tell oath which undergirds The Code of Silence is the primary means of justification utilized by agnostics.  Christians are to give an answer for the who, what, why, when, where and how of what they believe, and this answer should be spoken in clearly understood words.  Agnostics, the “not knowers“,  walk in deep darkness because at the heart of the matter is that they refuse to acknowledge real authority, as they consider real facts and evidence as some form of evil.

The feigned ignorance of Kent Hovind and his supporters is inexcusable because the foundation of his legal woes has been plainly laid out in court documents and commentaries over the years.   While Christians are not to obey evil dictates, it should never be overlooked that the authority of government is God ordained, and therefore to be shown proper respect.

A Christian response to Kent Hovind

Let me give a couple of examples to bring these assertions to life. The first regards a Christian who sincerely considered the evidence of the Kent Hovind trial, and the implications of it.  On January 21, 2007 rbell,  a forum member of baptistboard.com quoted Kent Hovind’s plea for leniency to the court just prior to his sentencing, saying, “If it’s just money the IRS wants, there are thousands of people out there who will help pay the money they want so I can go back out there and preach”.

Rbell commented that he found Kent Hovind’s words disturbing…”let other folks–my supporters–pay my taxes“, and so he lays down 12 reasons why Hovind is a liar and disobedient to the Scriptures, as shown in this screenshot.

Honor Among the Tax Sophists:  Rick Wiles and Kent Hovind bond together as two sides of the same counterfeit coin 

My second example concerns the feigned ignorance shown eight years later on July 28, 2015, when Rick Wiles of TruNews said in a video interview of Kent Hovind, “Most of the Trunews audience knows the name Dr. Kent Hovind.  He’s the most famous and respected advocate of creation science in our nation.  He’s the founder of the Creation Science Evangelist Ministry at the Dinosaur Adventure Land in Florida.  He traveled extensively for many years throughout the USA conducting creation science seminars and along the way he simply irritated too many people who despise God in the Bible and the corrupt regime that controls the federal government went after him in 2006.  The IRS obtained federal convictions of him and Mrs. Hovind on three bogus charges, including structuring, meaning he withdrew cash from the bank in small increments which added up to ten thousand dollars. Did you know they can put you away for doing that?  Well they did with Dr. Hovind and his wife. They also convicted him of tax evasion because his ministry’s associates were classified as ministers of the gospel, not employees who had payroll taxes withheld.  You know the Soviet union silenced dissidents by committing them to mental institutions…”. (14.38-15.46).

Despite volumes of evidence which refute what Rick Wiles has stated above, he chooses to bear false witness against the IRS and the court system, stating that Kent Hovind’s tax problems arose because of his accusers’ hatred of the God of the Bible. When it comes to Kent Hovind and to Rick Wiles, they both adhere to the Code of Silence as they refuse to truthfully discuss each other’s tax propensities.

So what would be Rick Wiles’ motive in covering over the tax fraud of Kent Hovind?  Well, one of Kent Hovind’s arguments was that the United States of America has no jurisdiction over him, and he based his reasoning on the arguments put forth by someone associated with the Sovereign Citizen Movement.   Interestingly, this movement promotes a tax avoidance scheme that for years Rick Wiles has used involving the structuring of his ministry as a Corporation Sole

I have written a couple of articles on Rick Wiles and his Office of Bishop of the Church of Trunews, and his Successor, a Corporation Sole,  as well as his Office of the Senior Pastor and President of the Flowing Streams Church, and his Successors, a Corporation Sole.  In 2016, a reader who I will not identify, who is personally acquainted with Rick Wiles, wrote “He calls himself a Bishop, but ordained/consecrated by whom?  Flowing Streams Church has never conducted weekly services.  Lately, his sidekick calls him Pastor Rick, but senior pastor of what?  The Montana address they used on Last Chance Gulch is the Iron Face Hotel, and it is a hotel room.  They rent efficiencies by the month.”

Unless Rick Wiles has recently altered the legal structuring of his ministry, the last I heard was that this self proclaimed Senior Pastor of the Flowing Streams Church, which has no services and no members, had received in 2015 donations totaling $5 million.  All of this fake church set-up is contrary to tax law, so is it any wonder that Rick Wiles covers over the criminal convictions of  Kent Hovind?

Pay No Attention to that tax fraud behind the curtain,  the Radical Righteous Remnant of the Hagmann & Hagmann family Is Told to Walk on Water

Another example of The Monkey Code of Silence is found in this TheNewsUnit post with an audio clip from the Hagmann & Hagmann radio show of April 17, 2015. Note that last sentence, The result is a very profitable and lucrative ministry. And whoever put that sideways smiley face next to V-The Guerrilla Economist’s name had better go into hiding after that last article I did exposing that fraud V.

During this 2.40 minute audio clip from the Hagmann & Hagmann Report (50.45-52.49 mark) of April 17, 2015, we hear Gregg Jackson surmising, “…what if, Joe and Doug, if we look at the Kent Hovind situation, a guy who’s rotting in prison right now being persecuted unfairly, unjustly, essentially and we all know it’s not for tax evasion or any of those things.  It’s because they want to shut up the most effective apologist for biblical creation in the world.  That’s the real reason that they don’t want Kent Hovind out there, I believe.”

“So what if, I’m just using this as an example, what if the whole Hagmann and Hagmann family, not just those on Hagmann Connect, but what about if all of your listeners, and I know that your audience dwarfs MSNBC all combined that it’s bigger than most talk radio shows out there on most of the major networks, what if we came together as the Radical Righteous Remnant of the body of believers of the Hagmann & Hagmann family, what if you had, as Coach Dave was saying, even a small percentage of the Hagmann and Hagmann listeners calling in on behalf of Kent Hovind to the Judge or to whoever is hearing his case or to the local news media as those living locally in the area to go down to the courthouse where if I understand it correctly from Coach it was only about a handful of churches that came, our members of churches, but what if we and my point in this, we can have that type of impact but it’s up to us ultimately.”

“This is why what Coach Dave was saying is so important.  It’s time to get in the game, which means we need to be uncomfortable and what do I mean by that that I mean we need to do the types of things that are uncomfortable for us.  Do you think it was uncomfortable for Peter to take a step out of that boat when Jesus was, was walking on water?  Peter got out of the boat, was walking, do you think that was uncomfortable?  I mean it defies credulity, it defies the small human pea brains that we have that apart from faith and  being obedient, it means walking on water, who can walk on water, I mean obviously it defies nature.  I’m not going to be able to do that and yet Peter was able to do that and why was he able to do that because it was focused on the Lord Jesus Christ.”

OK, here we have Gregg Jackson calling on the millions of Hagmann listeners to take action, and he does not provide any details.  Apparently he does not know the Judge’s name, or even who is presiding over the Kent Hovind case, or exactly what city it is in, or what the case is even about.  But he wants everyone to phone this unnamed Judge and unnamed local newspaper, about what? “Hello Judge or What-ever-you-are, I’m in the game now, and we all know that your ruling has nothing to do with taxes, and millions of us have commandeered an armada of fishing boats just like at Dunkirk, and we are all going to walk across the Gulf of Mexico just like Peter did, by faith….(click)”.

Why Robert Baty IS Kent Hovind’s Worst Nightmare

When I first considered Kent Hovind in 2015, my primary sources of information were Peter J. Reilly who is a contributor on tax issues on forbes.com, and Dee Holmes who has a blog at Hovindology.com. I have always considered Kent Hovind’s worst nightmare to be himself and his supporters.  But recently, as I began to consider the philosophy of the Sovereign Citizen Movement and how that tied in with various persons in the Christian Alternative News Media, I ran into the writings and interviews of Robert Baty who calls himself Kent Hovind’s Worst Nightmare.

Baty has a bit of a provocative sense of humor which he uses to  gall the shameless Hovind into a debate with him.  He recently  posted a photo of himself standing in front of the gate of the  Dinosaur Adventure Land property in Alabama. And Baty’s website kehvrlb.com  posts this notice, THE CHALLENGE TO KENT HOVIND.  There are now a total of 66 propositions for consideration..  Come out, Kent Hovind.  Or, send me your Champion. We have things to discuss.. Sincerely, Robert Baty

What Kent Hovind fears the most is that Baty is very well spoken, a good writer displaying both humor and intelligence, who displays sound logic.  Oh yeah, and he is a retired IRS Appeals Officer who is also a Christian, who easily rips the veil off of  Hovind’s false legal narrative.

While Kent Hovind avoids the debate challenge of Robert Baty, those who argue with him soon retreat to the safety of the hen house.

Personally I would like to see Kent Hovind’s Champions  come out one by one to debate Baty, starting with the Master of the Corporation Sole Rick Wiles, and then Get In The Game Dave (Coach) Daubenmire, The Godfather Douglas Hagmann, Goldslinger Steve Quayle, and I Can Walk on Water Gregg Jackson.  Or if they are terrified that one day they might look out the window and see Robert Baty standing on the street outside of their sovereign domain,  perhaps they could arrange to come out as a group representing the Radical Righteous Remnant of the Hagmann Family. 

I know nothing of Robert Baty’s personal life, but I suspect his adversaries know a lot. I did notice that on October 10, 2017, Kent Hovind raised up on his video lead page, the banner  Touch Not Mine Anointed as a warning to someone. Perhaps he has actually read the 66 debate propositions posted on Robert Baty’s website, titled Kent Hovind v. Robert Baty- The Great Debates!  And now Hovind has been rendered speechless.

These 66 propositions are worded in the traditional debate style that requires the two debaters to begin their arguments by affirming or denying the opening statement. If that is too complicated of a process for Hovind,  Baty has other sections on his website which relate to the core issues or persons connected with the Hovinds and their supporters.

One of the most dangerous aspects of Robert Baty, which is probably the number one  reason why Kent Hovind will not debate,  is the fact that Baty had steadfastly followed the details of the Hovind tax trials over the years and noticed things which the casual observer would not.  For example, the August 13, 2013, Peter J. Reilley’s article,  Doctor Dino- Kent Hovind May Lose in Court but will never give up, displays this comment from Robert Baty:I am going to take up the challenge of that last sentence, so the next post will be on, hmmm, there is so much to choose from, how about the tax advice of Glenn Stoll who can get you a longer jail sentence than you thought possible.

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Enter Stage Left: The Hollywood Insider Who Covertly Spied on Others at Work

One of the speakers being promoted by the March 2016 Dallas Hear The Watchmen conference is Jon Robberson, who was written up on the John B. Wells Caravan To Midnight show, episode 339 on July 28, 2015 as follows:  jon robberson on CTM 339 (2)

On June 25, 2015, a month prior to the John B. Wells show,  Jon Robberson was interviewed for the first time by the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show in a broadcast called   Jon- Hollywood Insider, Hollywood Is A Satanic Death Cult.   Douglas Hagmann, introduces Jon, who is speaking under first-name-only anonymity, saying, “our guest tonight without exaggeration, is under a certain amount of pressure, under threat not to talk about what he is going to talk about.  He has been under threat, he has been under serious attack and, and people might scoff at that, and say awwh, come on, ……this gentleman had to covertly, and surreptitiously, snuck around the backrooms, the back alleys, the back of the sets, looked, watched, kept notes, kept tabs on people, places, events.  He knows where the bodies are buried, he knows what goes on in Hollywood.  He knows about the rituals, the ritualistic type of abuse.  He knows the demonic nature of Hollywood, the Satanic nature….”

I listened to this entire interview, and most of what was discussed was generic, open sourced material.  Jon the Hollywood Insider did relate a few personal experiences, and said that he lost his $100,000/year job because he openly spoke to another employee as a Christian.  At the beginning, Jon intersperses this interview with Scripture, and a shofar blowing; at the end he brings on a man singing  A capella. Overall, my first impression of Jon Robberson is that he is friendly, kind, and has a sense of humor; yet because of his close association with this Inner Circle of Trust, I distrust my first impression.  This interview takes place at the American Survival Wholesale warehouse using their cell phones, because Jon is “under threat”.  We also discover that Jon was at the Whitestone Remnant Conference, and has been to Paul McGuire prayer meetings, so he seems to “get around”.

Of great interest is that Jon Robberson is credited with coming up with a solution for Hagmann and Hagmann listeners who desire to have a way to meet each other personally.  Apparently he uses his email H&H Connections @startpage.com for this purpose. Below are two forum members who made comments on this subject on March 14, 2015, more than two months prior to The Hollywood Insider’s first Hagmann interview.H&H Connections (2)H & H Connections 2 (2)

At some point Jon the Hollywood Insider allowed the use of his surname Robberson to be used, and we see some confusion with this transition on the Caravan To Midnight website, where three past interviews can be located under his surname, yet the guest listing  shows Jon listed under “J”, with his photo shown as the anonymous masked man of the movie Vendetta.

jon robberson ctm guest listed under jon (2)

Episode 408 does show his full name, but still retains the Guy Fawkes Mask from the movie Vendetta.  It would appear that this photo was taken from an ad for wallpaper, and as fans of the Caravan To Midnight show knowthey can purchase the CTM logo as wallpaper.

jon robberson on john b wells show guest list (2)

 

Readers of this blog will recall that V the Guerrilla Economist displays the Vendetta Symbol V vendetta drippingtaken from the same movie. And the recent infamous hackers which called themselves Anonymous also favored this Masked image. As this article taken from the Business Insider.com website explains on October 3, 2013, 13 Members of Hacker Group ‘Anonymous’ Were Indicted On Federal ChargesGiven that Christians are not to give the appearance of evil, I wonder how Jon the Hollywood Insider can justify the masking of his identity in this manner?

In September of 2015, The Watchmen’s Cry held a revival/worship/prayer meeting in Sandpoint, Idaho which was deemed successful.  This meeting had no door charge, was sponsored by Nathan Leal’s ministry, and had an offering at the end as a means to offset costs.  This meeting, which was very similar to many church sponsored revivals, somehow sparked a vision for the 2016  Hear The Watchmen conference.hear the watchmen nathan leal organizer (2)Since we are here discussing the evolution of Jon Robberson, from the anonymous Hollywood Insider,  to an openly named Conference Speaker with such “worthies” as the Hagmanns, John B. Wells, Paul McGuire and others, we must question this whole process.  At first, John Robberson had to hide out at the American Survival Wholesale warehouse, in order to give his first interview with Doug Hagmann, because he was under “serious attack”.  Supposedly he was under threat not to talk about what he knows.

Not long after that, he is traveling under his full name and he has become a conference speaker being groomed by Mike Kerr AKA Mike Whitestone, the organizer of the Hear The Watchmen conference, who has a shady past.  The Sandpoint, Idaho meeting was free; this latest conference fee stands at a little over $100, unless you obtain a half off coupon.  The first conference was entirely centered on worship and prayer;  this latest conference centers around radio hosts and book sellers, and the inner circle of trust of the Hagmann/Quayle alternative media group.

10/30/2015 Mike Kerr, organizer of Hear The Watchmen has dinner with Jon Robberson

10/30/2015 Mike Kerr, organizer of Hear The Watchmen has dinner with Jon Robberson

Now after V the Guerrilla Economist was invented, and heavily promoted by Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann, there was a point when he was “disfavored” and left the inner circle of trust.  Because his bonafides cannot be substantiated, he remained anonymous and created his own website and radio show.  But here we have someone who also came onboard as an insider being interviewed by Doug Hagmann, who despite “threats” is now being made over as a conference speaker, and a book writer.  All Roads Lead to Babylon??  It sounds like The Hollywood Insider has come under the spell of book writer and conference speaker, Paul McGuire.  The Hear The Watchmen webpage says of Jon Robberson, that he is one of the few Hollywood Insiders for Christ.  So what?  How many real Christians are there in any profession?  There are plenty of job occupations that are essentially “closed shops”, where the employee is under constraint as a Christian witness.jon robberson latest pic on Hear the watchmen (2)

Remember that Doug Hagmann told his listeners that Jon Robberson, while working in Hollywood, “covertly, and surreptitiously snuck around…looked, watched, kept notes, kept tabs on people, places, events.  He knows where the bodies are buried…”.  Are you sure that you want to give your personal information to Jon Robberson as part of the arrangement for being allowed to meet other Hagmann listeners via H&H Connections?

While looking over the imagery of the movie Vendetta, I found this image of the Vendetta Symbol with the Masked Man standing in front of a poster which says Strength Through Unity, Unity Through Faith, showing some sort of double cross at the bottom.  Why is it that Nathan Leal and others spend so much time analyzing the image motifs of the Super Bowl, and ignore the imagery displayed by the “Christian” Alternative Media?vendetta strength unity faith