Threatenings of a Lawsuit while sidestepping the “V” liability – the ever present danger in all of this

“But because a, a, a group of people who started coming against Doug and I, that we basically responded as in hyperbole, the thing is that we’ve been forced to fight a 30 month battle against people who have libeled us, who have slandered us, who have defamed us, who have been involved in tortious interference in our businesses, who have done their best to get you know literally thousands of pages on the internet….It doesn’t matter if you live in Taiwan, doesn’t matter whether if you have a dual citizenship, Mexico, the United States, doesn’t matter if you live in Mississippi, doesn’t matter if you live in Canada, doesn’t matter if you live in Alabama or Georgia or anyplace else, we are absolutely putting you on notice.  You will get to write the checks for your defense,…”  Steve Quayle on the 329 2018 Hagmann Report

The first I had heard that Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann were preparing a retaliation lawsuit against their naysayers was on January 12, 2017 when John Little of Omega Shock had written a follow-up to his previous article on V the Guerrilla Economist. In this screenshot we see a reference to named protagonists, which I assume includes this blog as one of my articles had been linked, and we see in the most recent Quayle “notice” that Mississippi is included, where I live.

On the February 28, 2018 Hagmann Report “Saddle for Battle Censorship Salvos are FlyingDoug Hagmann in an interview with Steve Quayle asked for donations from his wealthy listeners to finance a legal team to sue someone who has engaged in a “coordinated attack” against them.  I do not know of any “coordinated attack”, and what must be remembered is that the defamation lawsuit in which Hagmann and Quayle are defendants, has only one plaintiff; a Canadian investigative journalist who has written a few books, who is representing herself, Pro Se. She filed the defamation lawsuit to protect her professional reputation as a journalist.

Now one of the things I have observed with great amazement is that Steve Quayle  goes into panic mode whenever he discusses the disabled, housebound senior citizen woman in Michigan who bought $51,000 worth of silver coins and long-term storage food from his businesses in mid 2012. I have never met her, but we have exchanged emails and a few phone calls, and I have found her to be intelligent, funny, devoted to prayer, and very candid about the fact that she was at a very low emotional point in her life a few years ago. So how is this Christian woman a threat to a successful businessman who has his own security people, wealthy donors and millions of followers?  As we shall see, I believe  the trigger word is V-the Guerrilla Economist.

I am going to touch on just a couple of points today in regard to a six-minute segment of The Hagmann Report YouTube video published March 30, 2018 called Steve & Tyler Quayle -329 2018-  Prophecy Unfolding.  I have made an unofficial transcription of the audio from the 54.15-1.04 mark.   This small segment of the video begins with Tyler Quayle, the son and employee of Steve Quayle, who is winding up his interview. But note his strange assertions about Christians in America. Considering that his father has stated that he does not attend a local church, and has not for years, I do not know if Tyler has any real experiences with local church congregations.  After this,  Steve Quayle takes center stage to ask for donations from his wealthy listeners to finance a future, highly expensive, retributive lawsuit against apparently anyone who has disagreed with him.

Any bolding in the transcription below is mine, for purposes of commentary.

Tyler Quayle (54.15) …I feel like that the only way the church in America will get it is when there’s nothing on television anymore, or they can’t get their Xanax on time, like something has to interrupt the supply of pharmaceuticals, I think once that happens a lot of people will wake up.

Joe Hagmann: It’s a great point. It’s a great point and it’s probably more accurate than not.

Tyler Quayle: Well, I mean think about it, I mean I was half-joking, but if you had an event that shut down the distribution centers, how many people are on, uh antipsychotic, anti-anxiety, if they, if that supply chain broke down for 30 to 90 days, I mean you’re gonna have a little bit of a walking dead situation with people who are, you know, zombie like.

Doug Hagmann: Yeah, precisely right and I’ll tell you folks so you just heard uh, uh, Tyler and of course Steve Quayle, but, but in his son Tyler together what a, what a dynamic father/son team. I mean it’s tremendous and I’m, I’m so, I’m blessed and I know Joe feels the same way, and we are so blessed to uh just to have met you, have met, even spoken with you, but Steve and Tyler, thank you so very, very much for your time tonight.

Tyler Quayle: Thank you, Doug, thank you Joe, very much.

Doug Hagmann: Good talking to you, thank you! Folks…

Tyler Quayle: Hope to do it again. God bless.

Doug Hagmann: You’re, you’re always welcome. We’re going to be right back after this network break. Steve Quayle remaining to discuss a number of important issues. Stay where you’re at. (55.52)

(Network Break)

Doug Hagmann: (55.56) Steve Quayle, thank you so much for holding over.

Steve Quayle: Hey, Doug. Just give me a second. I have my security people just checking right now; they just knocked on the door, so just continue talking for 30 seconds.

Doug Hagmann: Sure, no worries at all. See this is what happens by the way, and, and you know it’s interesting, I had a conversation, you know that uh you know uh the first hour, John, you and I know what we’re talking about, security or surveillance, there’s over (overtalk by Joe)… and we’ve, we took, we’ve been on both ends of that. We’ve been subjected to and have been, conducted surveillance, and it’s interesting because you, when you’re in the world of surveillance, there will be companies, there will be people, there will be interests, who will attempt to hire you and say, “I just want to make sure that they see you in the morning and they see you at night.” Hopefully Steve, everything’s all right on your end.

Steve Quayle: Yeah, yeah, I mean here’s the thing you know and I have great security people and obviously you know Doug, I think people got to understand, you and I have lived under a cloud of lies, allegations and I want to give some legal terms to some people. We have had affidavits filed against us, and lawsuit we’re filing, which is spurious, it has no legal merit, but we’re in the six figures, ladies and gentlemen, and we’re willing to fight for you– not just ourselves- because I want people to put, before I even begin going a hundred miles an hour, I want people to understand some, I want you, everyone who has ever been blessed by hearing me anyplace, by hearing Doug any place, by being able to turn into Hagmann and Hagmann and hear from Tom Horn, all the amazing guests, hear Pastor Lankford.

I want you to ask yourself where will you go for the continual nourishment that God and His mercy has provided. Now look, I don’t care if people say I’m bat manure crazy. I don’t care what they say and obviously I know everybody’s not going to love me, but when they accuse Doug and I of money laundering, that is libel per se, OK? And libel per se is anything that charges any person with a crime or having been indicted, convicted or punished for a crime. We have not been.

When somebody accuses you in an affidavit in court and another person has an affidavit making her claims that I was taking advantage of a bipolar woman and that I cheated her when she bought silver, and got mad when it went down and claimed that it was because she listens to Viji the Guerrilla Economist talking to Doug and I and listen ladies and gentlemen, Viji didn’t come on until a year after she bought her silver. That woman filed an affidavit with both the state of Michigan and Montana, they said you have no legal merit, there’s nothing to the case.

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary: There are several fact benders stated here, but let’s just deal with one of those in greater depth.  Steve Quayle states in this video that V the Guerrilla Economist (Viji Varghese) “did not come on until a year after she bought her silver”.  He is referring to V’s appearance as a guest on the Hagmann show.    But what the affidavit states in point 14, is that To substantiate his dire warnings Mr. Quayle read on The Hagmann and Hagmann Report emails he claimed he received from a high-level international banking insider, and a broker, he called, “V”, he published on his website, stevequayle.com.  ‘V” was warning people to follow Mr. Quayle’s advice to get out of “paper” currency, as a fellow Christian”.

I have seen substantiation that at least one of those V emails was read on the Hagmann Report in mid June of 2012, when this buyer contacted Steve Quayle about purchasing silver and food from him. Steve Quayle is attempting to divert attention away from V the Guerrilla Economist’s  2012 influence, to a later time period in 2013.  In reality, V was in fact highly “visible” and influential in 2012 through the printed word on the internet, even though he did not become an interviewed guest on the Hagmann show until  January of 2013.

On that particular Hagmann show, Steve Quayle stated, “Tonight is a special treat because we have got one of the most accurate financial insiders I have ever had the privilege to know.  A lot of people Doug have been listening to him by way of his email and reading his emails but listening to the news that V has so appropriately warned everybody ahead of time;  that just to fill you in on his bona fides without obviously causing too much of a shock, he is probably one of the most well-known commodities traders in strategic metals.  He has worked for major (?) firms, also worked for the largest bank in the world, and if you know anything about the largest banks you don’t get to be the head of trading desks and all this stuff unless you know what you are doing.  His accuracy is prescient…..” .

Viji Varghese aka V the Guerrilla Economist later was revealed to be a fraud. He did not possess the securities industry credentials which require one to be licensed, and his resume was false. He has been reported to the Royal Bank of Scotland regarding his false resume, the IRS and FINRA, and pages of documentation were submitted as evidence.

What the record shows about V the Guerrilla Economist is that he first emailed Steve Quayle on March 12, 2012. The affidavit submitted to the court by the woman purchaser of silver states that she had contacted Steve Quayle at his Renaissance Metals business in Bozeman, Montana in June of 2012, and after several phone calls and emails sent him a check for $51,117.83 dated July 6, 2012.

So let’s go back in time to April 2012 and work our way through June 2012, and beyond,  via our own scrapbooks, to see what might have influenced a person to buy silver and long-term storage food from Steve Quayle.

Here is an April 13, 2012 message from Douglas Hagmann to advertise his special two-hour interview with Steve Quayle on what he expects to happen that summer, including the prospects of martial law.

Here is another screen shot dated 3 weeks later on May 5, 2012 taken from The News Unit website.

On May 10, 2012, The News Unit did an update on Steve Quayle’s warnings as shown in their article linked here.  Take the time to read this screenshot and see the style of advertising which Quayle had presented in order to sell merchandise.So proceeding forward on the 2012 timeline to the month of June when a listener of Steve Quayle became so concerned about warnings of imminent disaster that she contacted Steve Quayle, we read V’s  sixth email of June 7, 2012 in which Quayle directly asks V a question.

All of the V emails had been posted  at stevequayle.com on his QAlert page. Below I have displayed the first two paragraphs of the June 11, 2012  (seventh) email from V, which authoritatively warns that Steve’s listeners ought to get their cash out of banks NOW, and to buy physical silver and gold no matter what “spot price” is.

In light of the false credentials of Viji Varghese as V the Guerrilla Economist, note that there are several problems with his modus operandi, including his alarmist type of  “crying fire in a crowded theater”.  If  multitudes of listeners had acted to remove their cash from banks NOW, a run on our banks would have occurred. This entire panic scenario was fabricated, and another end result of people rushing out en masse to buy silver and gold, would be to drive the price up. And Steve Quayle is a gold and silver merchandiser.  On June 14, 2012 silverdoctors.com posted this on their website linked here. Note that “Steve Quayle had taken the unprecedented step to place his entire website under a red screen/red alert.”  As I understand it, Steve Quayle had advised his readers and listeners that once he knew from his insider sources that everything was going down, he would post a red screen alert on his website, so that others could “bug out” and go into their bunker and hiding places.  

On July 2, 2012, four days before the retired, disabled, living alone, frightened woman, had written Quayle a check for $51,117.83,   Andrews.edu posted under “Prophetic Enews from the Desk of Charles Wheeling” an article written by Steve Quayle on June 28, 2012 entitled, “What’s Really Going on in the Multi-billion dollar Bank Hacking World”.

The screen shot is shown below:

So let’s continue reading what Steve Quayle had to say on The Hagmann Report on March 29, 2018.  He continues to berate his 2012 Michigan customer whose fears had been greatly magnified by the false reports which were published by Steve Quayle and V the Guerrilla Economist.   Note his complete lack of Christian compassion, as well as his misrepresentation of the context in which this 2012 transaction took place, as he considers her psychological status at that point in time to be an exonerating factor of his own words and actions.

Steve Quayle:  She then went on in her own words, I think Doug, what are there, at least 12 to 18 references where she claims after the fact that she basically was crazy that her kids, here’s, here’s a direct quote, “Mom”, I’m not gonna name her you know, it’s a public record, “Mom, I’m very concerned with your mental health, you are not yourself and are exhibiting many of the classic symptoms of a manic episode, I mean this with utter sincerity, please go to the hospital and get help.” That’s a woman that said I was, you know, dishonest and I stole from her. She got everything she wanted. She got everything she agreed to.

She had Buyer’s Remorse and I went from being her favorite person on the planet, ladies and gentlemen, when Doug said we have assembled and continue to assemble a team of legal experts, we have voluminous amounts of documentation and some of you people that hang out on whatever boards, you know the boards that proscribe us or the boards that you know, people aren’t allowed to mention us openly but they do in their bomb shelter and stuff; all of those are memorialized also.

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary:  The Prudent Man Rule is the primary investment guideline governing fiduciary related transactions.  And it encompasses basic wisdom when it comes to handling our own assets, for one of the things a prudent man does is diversify his assets in order to spread out risk.  In common terms, this is the adage of “don’t put all your eggs into one basket.” 

The warnings given by Steve Quayle and V-the Guerrilla Economist during 2012 violated the common sense rule of the Prudent Man when they created a panic situation based on falsehoods that attempted to provoke their Christian listeners to place most of their cash into metals. When their proclaimed “crisis” disappeared like a morning mist, those who had a portfolio largely of metals did not have much liquidity. And those panic transactions could not be reversed without losing value. 

Who stood to gain from this panic situation?  Simply it was those who were sellers of gold and silver and long term storage food and other emergency items. 

There was no excuse for the Hagmann “premier father and son investigative team” and for Steve Quayle, successful businessman, to not vet V’s credentials.  Thus both of these men are legally responsible for promoting the fraudulent  V the Guerrilla Economist into a position of public trust, in conjunction with their businesses.

And while we are at it, do not forget that Hagmann’s trusted friend,  Wayne Willot aka W the Intelligence Insider,  became a regular guest on V’s shows later!   When both V and W the Intelligence Insider parted ways with Hagmann and Quayle, the public was not advised that V’s credentials were fraudulent. In fact there was Silence on this matter, as if a nondisclosure agreement had been signed.

If Quayle and Hagmann want to sue those who tried to warn others about these facts, you can rest assured that the documentation on V will also show up in the court record, and discovery  may reveal what really went on behind the scenes. It might be interesting for a start to request certified copies of the bank statements of both Quayle and V to find out if they had closed down their own accounts, as they had advised others to do.   

So did this woman who filed an affidavit with the court have “Buyer’s Remorse”?  You bet she did, after she recovered from the severe emotional state of fear she had been in. As a Christian, she accepted the fact that she had made a wrong decision, and took responsibility for it. 

When she went to the states of Montana and Michigan and attempted to enlist the help of their consumer protection divisions, she was not asking for compensation, but in my opinion. was attempting to get a government agency to understand that the form which the fear propaganda took, had been the foundation for fraudulent activity. This latter explanation is my own, and I am not quoting her words.  One of the things to remember is that all government agencies have limited budgets and have a limited scope of responsibility; thus it is often difficult for the average citizen to know who to go to, to address complex issues involving consumer protection.

As a side note of interest, this week I picked up a new term from Dave Acton’s You Tube channel.  I thought the definition of Cognitive threats provides insight into another aspect of the Alternative Media’s motive for its continual promotion of a crisis mentality.Under the subheading of Maturing of Attack Tools by Threat Actors, Dave Acton’s draft report says that “Cognitive (mind) threats are a type of social engineering attack that demands immediate action based on a perceived crisis (always based on deception).”

Thinking back on 2012- the year of the end of the Mayan calendar, and comparing it to  other crisis scenarios like the Y2K crisis, etc. promoted by Alternative News radio hosts, one has to ask if there is a hidden agenda of “social engineering” that is one of the factors behind these money making schemes.  Certainly one effect of these hoax crisis situations is to influence Christians to replace their faith in God, and their common sense, with a God forsaken sense of fear.

Steve Quayle:  Now, ladies and gentlemen (1.00.00) we’re not just fighting for us, we’re fighting for you. And the legal team, we’ve got is one of the best in the country and they’re going to be expensive. It’s going to cost us high in the six figures but what, what we’ve been able to do is piece this whole thing together and look that’s nothing compared to what the left has, so I want you to understand something that they have tried in their best to trade libel.

Trade libel is defamation against the goods or services of a company or business. They’ve done it Doug, they’ve done it to me. There are people that go on bulletin boards and, and forums etc. and just continue to parrot false claims. Even a guy that was a radio host wanted to get a class action suit against me. Guess what? He ended up in jail; and he’s not off the hook. Another individual who uh, uh, basically made public claims and it’s memorialized that I sold fake bullion. He then retracted it. That’s a crime ladies and gentlemen.

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary:  Trade Libel?  Here is a teaser article from the kellywarnerlaw.com on Trade libel, with an excerpt:

Kelly/Warner summarizes 3 points of libel law:Here is an example of Trade Libel which I have taken from the second part of the silverdoctors.com  June 14, 2012 article linked earlier, called RED ALERT from International Banker:  Euro has collapsed!  It is from a V email to Steve Quayle.RBS is the Royal Bank of Scotland which V claimed to work for, but in fact did not. Because he has falsified his credentials, he is lying when he says he has insider information.  Note he also names Credit Sussie and is giving out false information on which he tells Steve to tell his listeners to pull out of their bank accounts because the Euro has collapsed.  Take a look at those 3 points of trade libel again, and see how they apply to V’s email which was published by Steve Quayle.

Traverselegal.com in their article on trade libel states, “The standard of defamation elements generally apply to businesses in that the content at issue must be a statement of fact that is provably false that causes financial harm or harm to reputational interests and the author was at least negligent or careless in its research of the true facts prior to posting the material online.”

What Quayle and V were proclaiming against the banking industry was defamation against their reputations involving massive falsehoods.  It also involved the incitement of bank customers into immediately pulling out their cash; a mass panic would  have created a run on banks.  And now Quayle is accusing others of committing trade libel against their businesses? 

Oh, and by the way,  when Quayle brings up Pete Santilli, the radio host who was interested to know if there were others willing to come forward for a class action suit; -his time in jail had nothing to do with Quayle, but was the result of his physical presence at the Oregon Standoff situation.

Steve Quayle:  That is not only libel, it’s injurious but it’s also a crime. So what Doug and I are having to do obviously is you know that all talk radio is under attack with the demonetization by YouTube, with the demonetization of advertising, with advertisers pulling away. We have to appeal to those of you who can afford to help us and I’m saying that for the legal challenge we’re going to make, when I say we’ve got some of the brightest legal minds of the world, we’ve got a guy who started a law school, wrote the law book, and is respected in the country, he’s a Constitutional authority. Now this guy you know these guys have, how do I say, the firm has taken stuff to the Supreme Court.

But because a, a, a group of people who started coming against Doug and I, that we basically responded as in hyperbole, the thing is that we’ve been forced to fight a 30 month battle against people who have libeled us, who have slandered us, who have defamed us, who have been involved in tortious interference in our businesses, who have done their best to get you know literally thousands of pages on the internet. One lies, another one swears to it, and everybody says yep we told you these guys are that; we’ve had enough.

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary A group of people?  Your Joint Response on February 10, 2015 named only two persons.  Only one person is the plaintiff in the defamation lawsuit against Quayle and Hagmann. 

Steve Quayle:  We kept silent. Obviously our case is in court but I want to share something. It doesn’t matter if you live in Taiwan, doesn’t matter whether if you have a dual citizenship, Mexico, the United States, doesn’t matter if you live in Mississippi, doesn’t matter if you live in Canada, doesn’t matter if you live in Alabama or Georgia or anyplace else, we are absolutely putting you on notice.

You will get to write the checks for your defense, and you can’t say well na nanny nanna there’s also libel per se, there is a false light claim when you take something as factual that is knowingly not true and you go out and blab it while you’re knitting your uh you know whatever your blanket or your what do they call shawls or whatever and you can just bet on it that you can’t claim “well, I didn’t know any better”.

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary:  What is with the childish na nanny nanna taunt?  And why is Quayle so obsessed with that one disabled Michigan woman who wrote an affidavit?  Now he is attacking her talent of being an excellent knitter who generously makes gifts for other people.

Contrary to Doug Hagmann’s prior characterization of someone in Mississippi who knits,  I do not knit.  But I do live in Mississippi, and I have written Christian commentaries on various persons in the  Alternative Media, so I guess I have been put on notice for who knows what It is not defamation to speak the truth.  

I see that Quayle likes to project his own sins onto others:  how about this one, “when you take something as factual that is knowingly not true and you go out and blab it.” Hahahahahaha!  That fits Quayle to a V!

Steve Quayle and Douglas Hagmann are attempting to set up a legal team to take vengeance against anyone who opposed their false narratives over the past few years, and he wants to ruin them financially. He is not talking about suing deep pocket corporations and wealthy persons, because he has not addressed that group in any detail.    He wants to sue individuals who tried to warn others about their fear propaganda and he does not have the guts to name them, because if he did, it might cause his listeners to read what those persons have written on the internet.

In all of this, the  Christian Alternative Media is noted for expecting that its listeners obey them without question, accept their statements without doing any research and analysis, and to substitute studying the Bible for themselves by following men who claim to be anointed Watchmen of God.  

Quayle and Hagmann  hope their wealthy listeners will finance their cause, because they are doing it for you, not just themselves.  They are certainly not doing it for the sake of Jesus Christ, as the effects of all this fear propaganda over the years has been detrimental to the blood bought church of Christ. Here is a sample testimony of someone who claimed to be a missionary to the Philippines who wrote to Steve Quayle about the edification of the church.

Steve Quayle:  So ladies and gentlemen, it’s not just this, they’re trying to shut Alex up. Remember this when the most powerful people in the world want you dead, you’re over target and little by little we’re being picked off, so it’s not just Doug and me fighting a lawsuit, it is absolutely the lawsuit, it is a bigger picture. The bigger picture is again and Doug I don’t know how to say this anymore clearly, the bigger picture is can you ultimately face the fact and it will come just as if Trump was an intermission and I believe he was you know people get more mad at that than they want nuclear war and there’s a Scripture that says, woe unto you who long for the day of the Lord…(1.03.59)

Tracking the Leopard Meroz commentary It must be remembered that one of the persons who appears to be targeted by the up and coming Legal Team is the man who exposed the false credentials and false resume of V.  Others have written and made videos to warn Christians about the falsehoods published on the Alternative Media.  None of these persons are the most powerful people in the world.  And as regards the REAL most powerful people in the world, why would they want Steve Quayle or Doug Hagmann dead? 

Even when it comes to Alex Jones, much of his YouTube striking problems stem from his battle with his ex wife over the custody of their three children. But, oh wait!  The Sandy Hook families  are now suing Alex Jones and Infowars for declaring that the Sandy Hook incident was a hoax. Perhaps Americans are tiring of being socially engineered by Alternative Media radio hosts and their guests.

Should those persons who are being targeted by Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann for a lawsuit be concerned?  Or is this “notice”  just a means of intimidation to silence the free speech of ordinary Christians who speak out against wrongdoing?

The Legal Team that wants its money up front might be in for a surprise, if it decides to sue a number of Pro Se Christian defendants with a little common sense, and God on their side.

Update:  John Little of Omegashock comments on this matter in an article Of Schemes and Stratagems dated April 27, 2018.

 

 

 

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6 thoughts on “Threatenings of a Lawsuit while sidestepping the “V” liability – the ever present danger in all of this

  1. He’s going to need donations to buy a backhoe for the hole he’s digging.

    I won’t name this person, but I met somebody a few weeks back who followed the general advice of this crew, and cashed out of a significant savings plan that was down at the time. Tax hit was in the mid $30k range. Had to sell the house (at a bad time in the housing market) and move in with Mom. Still lives with Mom. The savings plan completely missed the rebound and the metals prices tanked.

    My loss isn’t to that level, but I feel both of us have a pretty good case, if either of us decided to go that way. I’m sure there are many more out there who haven’t spoken out yet. If someone were to open a Class Action suit, it could be devastating (I’m not announcing or suggesting one).

    Steve had a way out several years ago. Could have put his customers first, made it right, and exposed V as a fraud. Instead, he’s doubling down and demonizing the people he took advantage of. There’s no way he comes out of this smelling like a rose.

    My other comments (in related articles) stand. He should have done the Christian thing, and he’d be a better man in my book. Very unfortunate.

  2. They are not believers here is the proof. ( This means doing a lawsuit against a woman believer too)
    1 Corinthians 6 New King James Version (NKJV)
    Do Not Sue the Brethren
    6 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? 4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge? 5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

    7 Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? 8 No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived

    If this is not Apostasy then what is? We will know them by there fruits or lack of them, whilst their cult-like followers fall like lemmings off a cliff.
    I cannot listen to Steve his voice is just a further warning of the no fruit”
    He was praying recently that anyone who speaks out against him must repent now or basically they are not going to heaven.
    Delusional I would say, and terrifying to think that these are being almost worshipped!
    If he is a believer then my Bible is wrong in what it says about those proclaiming to be and having a form a godliness, and my Bible isn’t wrong:
    2 Timothy 3:5-8 King James Version (KJV)
    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    A true believer knows you don’t take lawsuits out on other ones.

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  4. Steve and Doug and that whole cabal are wolves in tailored-sheepskin. They cloak themselves in pseudo-Christian rhetoric and imagery. They allude to Higher callings and powerful alliances.
    Behold! The wizard of oz and Barney Fife.
    The dual citizenship blogger Steve is threatening is probably Paul Benson: http://www.paulbenson.me/

    The mighty Q is a thug. He does not walk the walk, and he really doesn’t even talk the talk. He is all about his Nephilim industry and gold and silver.

    You guys must be having more impact on his money-changing than you probably would have suspected.

    Keep up the labors in the Truth. Those of us who watch and pray and worship Jesus Christ- and not the Book of Enoch and the Holy Cuneiform – can see what is happening here.

    Beware false prophets!
    Bondo

  5. I would hope anyone considering providing financial support to Mr. Steve Quayle regarding his threatened suit would do their homework and look at the public information available before making any such commitment. From my review of this matter, it would appear the preponderance of the evidence and support would be found on the side of those who have the temerity (/s) to challenge someone as self-important as Steve Quayle.

    Anyone considering such commitment should ask Mr. Quayle: What do you intend to accomplish by your suit? And maybe more importantly: What have you done to limit the possibility of future misunderstandings of your advice involving precious metal investments?

    As Jacquelyn stated in her article regarding the “prudent man” concept, precious metals are not liquid instruments, and anyone advocating all or a great portion of their funds be invested in them would be violating the fiduciary principles of investing, regardless if they are governed as a duly licensed professional investment adviser or not. The idea that even one person was convinced to invest all of her liquid assets in precious metals would not bode well for Mr. Quayle, because it demonstrates that he was not operating in her best interests; on the contrary, it would appear he was operating primarily in his own interests, and by his subsequent actions, that would only be confirmed.

    Although I know his intention is not to harm himself by taking legal action, I would suggest he will lose either way if he goes forward with legal action. Even if he should win his suit (whatever that may be), he will likely lose his reputation in the Christian community because the full story will come out as to how he KNEW he was utilizing the advice of someone who had fraudulently misrepresented his professional credentials, yet Mr. Quayle did nothing to correct his failure to properly vet that individual. And even worse, how he treated those who dared to reprove him, based on their Christian convictions.

    I know he has pastoral counsel surrounding him, it would be my prayer that they help him determine how God’s name can be glorified in this matter, because for the genuine believer in Jesus Christ, that is what is most important.

  6. If there is a class action lawsuit against these guys, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I too pulled a HUGE sum from my retirement account, and took the horrific tax hit, based upon what Quayle and Hagmann and their guests, experts were saying in 2012 and 2013.

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