Disinformation, Black Ops, Two-faced Bloggers and the Art of the Illogical Argument

In the past few months, I have taken a journey through the lesser known parts of the Alternative Media, and the Facebook groups which constantly feed into the American psyche an unexamined flood of constant postings of imminent danger, accompanied by mostly banal comments and a sampling of uncensored vile language, histrionics, and porn. Every once in awhile, sound counsel and information is given, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.

So last week, my oldest daughter and her husband and children made a trip from Scotland, where they presently reside, to the US to visit family and friends. When they were staying at my house, we ended up discussing the American Alternative News Media.  My son-in-law who is a Baptist Minister, observed that the fear mindset that is being propagated here in this nation is a uniquely American thing, whereas the European common man takes a calmer approach to current events. Of course, throughout history, on both continents, we can find examples of the populace being shepherded by  political and religious leaders into unprofitable wars. So succumbing to propaganda is nothing new on the human scene.

One of the questions I wonder about is:  Why, in a free country, does an adult Christian blindly accept the opinions of total strangers and fail to examine, and to weigh, the actual facts of his own situation when making decisions which affect the welfare of his own soul, the present and future good of his own family, and his accountability to God?  I ask this question, not only because of what I have observed about the Christian Alternative Media influence on public opinion, but also because of a recent comment from a Hagmann/Quayle fan, who seems to think that I am a Disinformation Agent, rather than a Christian who simply desires that listeners and readers of the Alternative News Media improve their critical thinking skills.

Of late, I have been examining my own use of the time which God has granted me, to reflect on the words spoken and recorded by the Holy Spirit in the Bible, and to reading  how other, mostly unknown, persons have spent their days on this earth.  Why waste one’s time reading shallow Facebook posts, when deeper reflections on real life can be found at little or no cost?  The main library here in Hattiesburg has for some months been clearing out their shelves of unread books and selling them for 25 cents and under.  I now own several interesting public library books that appear to have never been read, and yet they are very well written, factual, thought-provoking books.  I just finished one on the true stories of a whaling captain who brought his wife aboard his ship of uncouth men for a journey from New England to the Pacific Ocean during the Civil War era.

Here is another book which I find highly interesting called A History of Smoky Valley Nevada, written by Robert D. McCracken, a descendant of three generations of hardrock miners, who helped operate mines, yet also obtained a Ph.D in cultural anthropology. He begins the Preface to his book with a quote from James Burke, If you don’t know how you got somewhere, you don’t know where you are.  If you don’t know where you are, you don’t know where you’re going.

Robert McCracken then says, “The usual reason given for the study of history is that knowledge of the past will spare a person or society from repeating mistakes.  This justification is no doubt true, but I believe there is another persuasive reason to study history:  It has to do with self-knowledge and identity.  Each of us is a synthesized sum of individual experiences.  Each moment of our lives results in an iteration:  New experiences are incorporated into a baseline consisting of a synthesis or pattern of all past experiences.  In a sense, each of us is the past made manifest in the present; and at each instant each of us is pregnant with future identity.  Take away our pasts and we are amnesiacs, lost in time and space with no identity. I believe much the same can be said of society…..”

What he is discussing is the ability of mankind to be self-reflective and analytical.  But I ask, if what a person mentally ingests daily is false, both evidentially and analytically, what is the end result to that man and to the society he is a part of?

Today I am going to make a few observations on a 12 minute portion of an audio of Doug Hagmann  discussing an analogy he is trying to make, in order to insinuate that the source of those individuals who disagree with his on-air discourses, are really agents of the CIA working as disinformation, black ops, two faced bloggers. In this audio he is conversing with both his listeners and with his son, Joe Hagmann, on the October 13, 2016 Hagmann Report show broadcast.  Hagmann brings up Kevin Shipp’s book, From the Company of Shadows, printed on October 16, 2012, as a point of reference in his argument.

For those unfamiliar with Kevin Shipp, according to a lawsuit filing in which Shipp was a plaintiff, he declares this about himself:   “Mr. Shipp is a former Central Intelligence Agency officer and antiterrorism expert, having held several high level positions in the CIA.  He was assigned to be a protective agent for the Director of Central Intelligence, a counterintelligence investigator, a Counterterrorism Center officer, a team leader protecting sensitive CIA assets from assassination, a manager of high-risk protective operations, a lead instructor for members of allied governments, an internal staff security investigator, and a polygraph examiner.  He was tasked with protecting the CIA from foreign agent penetration and the chief of training for the CIA federal police force.  Mr. Shipp functioned as program manager for the Department of State, Diplomatic Security, and Anti-Terrorism Assistance global police-training program.  He is the recipient of two CIA Meritorious Unit Citations, three Exceptional Performance Awards, and a Medallion for overseas covert operations.  He is the author of the book, From The Company of Shadows-CIA Operations and the War on Terrorism, Ascent Pub., 2012.”

So with this in mind, we begin at about the 35 minute mark into the broadcast to hear the following: (Note: I have placed some words in bold in order to draw attention to them in my own commentary on this audio.  Also note that I have given links to articles on the internet to explain some of the topics mentioned, if you are unfamiliar with what is being discussed).

Doug Hagmann:…..  I want to give you some numbers.  Kevin Shipp was a, a, he was a CIA analyst and officer, wrote a book  From The Company of Shadows. Fact we, we got the, when he first wrote that book,  we were the first radio interview that he did.  And of course there was a code within that book, some of the long time listeners will remember that interview, to circumvent the CIA censors, and it’s really interesting but uh this coming a little bit from um Kevin Shipp’s and some of this information coming from Kevin Shipp in a recent talk he gave, uh but these numbers I assembled these numbers specifically for this program tonight.  Listen to this, alright?  We talk about the shadow government, we talk about the deep government, the deep state government, the shadow government, we talk about the Luciferian global elite, but who are they?  What is that?  Really, what is that?  Is it just tin foil hat conspiracy crap nonsense…is that what it is?  Well, listen to this. As of today, right now, there are 1,271 government agencies involved in um, secret programs, alright.  1,271 government agencies involved in black ops programs.  Let that sink in for a second.  1,271 government agencies involved in black ops programs.

Joe Hagmann:  I did not even know we had that many government agencies.

Doug Hagmann:   It’s phenomenal. As I mean, mind blowing. 1,931 private companies involved in the same, alright?  Nearly 2,000 private companies have been enlisted in our involvement in Black Op- black operations or “off-the-book operations”.  And these are NGO’s, these are companies that are under the secrecy clause circumventing essentially the Constitution.  Inside the United States, and this might blow your mind, there are 10,000 secret intelligence locations inside the United States and when I say secret intelligence locations they could be think tanks, they could be operational bases whatever they might be, but 10,000 located in the United States and may I remind everyone that when we’re dealing with this and specially with the CIA, and the CIA, their mandate, their ah, charter is non-domestic.  What are we doing with 10,000 locations here in the United States?  Think about that number.  That’s a lot of uh secret intelligence locations.  How about this?  Number of Americans holding and  I’ll ask, I’m going to toss this question out to you, Joe.  How many Americans do you think, and if you’re off, I’m not going to, I mean,  I had no clue, but how many people do you think, how many Americans do you think hold security clearances issued by the government?  How many Americans are bound by the secrecy agreement, that hold secret security clearances, secret designations, security clearances in the United States?  How many do you..

JH:  I’d say 2 million, maybe.

DH:  It’s closer to five.  4.8million that we know of, alright, and, and..

JH:  We have all the private contracting companies now working with  military institutions and intelligence agencies,so..

DH:  yeah

JH:  … that probably is what lead to somewhat of an increase in that number.

DH:  Well,  I thought that number, the 4.8 million, how many hold top secret security clearances?  And there are obviously clearances well above that. But there’s 854,000 right now give or take, that currently hold top secret security clearances for the US government.  You think we’re a little bit top heavy on the secrecy here?  You talk about the JFK speech on secrecy as morally repugnant, well here it is, and I found this extremely interesting.  The agencies some of the agencies involved in issuing these security clearances involved in black ops and also um binding their workers, some of their workers, employees and contractors to the giving up their rights under the Constitution to their black ops operations including of course the CIA, the FBI, and NSA, but also included in this the National Weather Service and NOAA.  Think about that.  That goes back to Dane Wigington and GEO engineering.

JH:  GEO engineering…

DH:  So you gotta know that there is something going on.  I’m, I’m headed, there’s a place I’m going with this, and I really, I’ve hinted at this before.  I’ve made some statements before, but I really want to drive this home now.  Now do you see the scope of this?  The CIA has got something called In-Q-Tel.  I don’t know how many people are familiar with that.  You’re familiar with that, Joe.  In-Q-Tel.  In-Q-Tel is a basket I suppose of, I don’t even know how would you describe In-Q-Tel?  I guess they recruit companies that could be as large as Google for example, or as small as some Mom and Pop operation, but In-Q-Tel uh collects the businesses and, and they co-opt them and they work for the, essentially work for the CIA, alright.  In this post-Constitutional government in which we live today.  Now here’s why I bring this up.  Because concurrent with the email releases, and I think some people might, the Podesta Email release, this is one thing that may surprise many people because um there is a website, it’s a known Conservative website based in the UK, this according to the Podesta email release, Heat Street, uh founder, do you know of the Heat Street?

JH:  Yeah, that’s been a website that has seen a huge rise in traffic during this election cycle.

DH:  Right, and it’s supposedly conservative UK based conservative, alright.  Well one thing it you…

JH:  I wondered where that just popped up from.

DH:  Well, OK.  But the Podesta Emails of here lately um revealed that the Heat Street founder conservative based   Heat Street UK website founder Louise Mensch is an advisor for the Hillary Clinton campaign, as close to Hillary Clinton.  Now, folks, again think about this. Think about what I’ve been saying here for the last couple of, several weeks, months, maybe, about the infiltration and about how people on our side have been co-opted in which you think you know to be true is not true at all.

Now I’m not saying this, the Podesta Emails revealed that the Heat Street founder, this conservative UK based conservative website Louise Mensch is working for Hillary Clinton, the campaign.  This according to the Podesta Email  uh disclosure.  I will say this-this is not confirmed but this is based on my investigation-I personally believe, it’s my professional opinion, that the, all of the anti-Trump material that has been released, has been released by Paul Ryan and the GOP establishment that includes the Bush family and that includes the current Republican Senators and Congressmen.

Now think about that.  The reason I mentioned, I’m going to go back one step, and the reason I mention about Heat Street is because of course Louise Mensch is an author of books that are supposedly, and an author of articles that are supposedly taking Hillary Clinton to task.  But on the flip side of that you’ve got this supposedly conservative allegedly conservative person that’s working for Hillary Clinton.  But you wouldn’t know it because she is coming out and writing articles to the contrary.

We see this here, directed at  the Alternative News Media, and this is extremely important what we’re seeing take place right now against Hagmann and Hagmann Report, against myself personally and others, including people like Dave Hodges, Alex Jones, Rick Wiles, Steve Quayle.  We have the same problem. Or we are experiencing the same blowback here.  You would think OK, you may come across on the internet people saying, “Oh, well, they’re really, the big thing is they’re not Christians, they are, they’re bad Christians, oh they’re just ah, they’re Fear Porn people.  They are whatever, this or that”, and you look at who’s lobbing the accusations and, and, it would appear that they could be legitimate Christians or legitimate Conservatives having legitimate complaints. 

Well, the very playbook that I just gave you, the fact that, that the Podesta Emails ripped open, laid out, that Louise Mensch as the founder of Heat Street website is actually working on behalf of Hillary Clinton is the exact, and I mean the exact architecture behind the attacks that we face.  So the reason I brought this up is all of us in the Alternative Media which has now been branded Alt Right.  Folks, we are now um on the hog list, the short list, for censorship which is a good thing in my view because now we’ve, I don’t want to say we’ve made it to the big leagues, but we’re making a difference because you’re not going to get fired at, unless you’re over the target.  So I think we are accomplishing our mission of information and sharing information analysis.

But we are fighting this Leviathan, as I mentioned before, we’re fighting this Leviathan of Black Operations of 1,271 government agencies involved in those secret black ops, and 1,931 private corporations and over 10,000 secret intelligence locations located here in the United States, and 4.8 million people in this country holding security clearances; many of whom are involved in the black ops and the 854,000 plus holding top security clearances and this, the…

JH: Think of the money that it takes to fund these Black Ops operations….(47.25 mark)

Commentary:

Within the body of this dialogue, Doug Hagmann tells his listeners that he has a goal in mind, a place where he is headed with his background information on the CIA and the Podesta Emails released by WikiLeaks, and the two faced behavior of the founder of Heat Street, who at the same time as appearing as a conservative critical of Hillary Clinton, is in truth helping with her Presidential campaign.

What he lays out in terms of CIA based disinformation, black ops, and a two faced UK blogger, he later refers to as a playbook, or an architecture behind the attacks he is personally facing. Taking this larger scenario which he has painted, he transfers this  analogy to his own personal situation,  in the form of an illogical argument that the internet attacks against him, and his Alternative Media friends, which appear to be legitimate complaints from legitimate Christians and Conservatives, are suspect, and connected to a Leviathan of Black Ops.  Doug Hagmann does not name the names of the greatest adversaries he faces on the internet; therefore  his listeners cannot judge for themselves the soundness of his argument.  Just in case one of his listeners runs across one of his critics on the internet, he trivializes those bloggers as being whiny complainers who make accusations of fear porn and pose questions about the genuineness of the Christian salvation of Alternative Media radio hosts and writers.

The first part of Hagmann’s narrative sets up broad based apriori statements consisting of certain perceptions of the CIA held by the American public. As everyone knows, the CIA does not have a good public image because of the clandestine operations in which it has been involved over the years, particularly where it served questionable political goals in Vietnam, or South America and other places.  So using this natural aversion to the CIA which the average American feels, Hagmann  then sets up a strategy where he relies on the authority of a former CIA officer, Kevin Shipp, who experienced problems involving CIA censorship of his publication(s). Thus a former CIA insider becomes an instant free speech hero after retirement, by fighting the censorship efforts of the ClA who suddenly becomes the bad guy to Shipp, after he has faithfully cashed his years of paychecks from them with no moral qualms.

Hagmann quotes numerous statistics from an uncited Kevin Shipp speech, so that the listener is unsure of where these numbers were derived. But the net effect of Hagmann’s statistics is to induce in the listener the impression that the CIA, who has a non-domestic mandate, has in fact positioned itself in the United States to co-opt American citizens and private companies through security clearances and black operations, which Hagmann defines as “off-the books” operations. Hagmann uses the terms infiltration, referring to the co-opting of people on “our side” who seemed to be ones that could be trusted, but proved later to be untrustworthy.

As an example, Doug Hagmann brings up a recent revelation from the Podesta Emails which WikiLeaks published on October 7, 2016.  Joe Hagmann makes a statement about the sudden mysterious rise of the UK website Heat Street during the US Presidential campaign, but what they both fail to mention is that the Heat Street founder Louise Mensch had been a Conservative Party member of Parliament, and English and American definitions of words are not necessarily equivalent, especially when discussing politics.

Rupert Murdoch is the financial backer of Heat Street, which would have pushed this website to top readership within a short time period, so the mystery of a quick rise to prominence is solved there.  But the point which Hagmann wants to make is that Mensch represents a two faced Conservative/Liberal agenda designed to undermine public opinion, at will.  Now why Hagmann ever trusted Louise Mensch in the first place, I have no real clue; perhaps it has to do with her Roman Catholic background, her low cut blouses, the fact that she suffers from Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or some other factor which has “Truth which can be trusted” written all over it.

So from this Large Distorted Picasso Painting of the CIA overstepping its mandate with local black operations co-opting American citizens and businesses via security clearances and presumably monetary backing, and the example of a two faced blogger involved with Hillary Clinton’s campaign, Doug Hagmann claims that the same playbook, the same architecture is present in internet attacks on the Alternative News Media in the US, and especially on him personally. Now we are discovering the true motive behind this illogical analogy which we are to believe.

Now concurrent with this audio, is the fact that for some mysterious reason Doug Hagmann removed his article published February 10, 2015 from his website, which had been titled, Setting the Record Straight:  Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway.  One of the targeted individuals in that piece, later filed a defamation lawsuit against the authors, Douglas Hagmann and Stephen Quayle.  That lawsuit mentioned several instances of defamation as well as citing that particular article which was recently removed.  I am not privy to the backstory behind the removal of that article; an article which had been available for public viewing,  some 600 days or so.

As a disinterested observer, I would like to point out that the use of one example of a two faced Conservative  British blogger who is helping with Hillary Clinton’s campaign is a revelation which just came out this month on with the WikiLeaks Podesta emails. But this is not the first time that Doug Hagmann has aired a similar type of grievance in connection with an author who has written about the Clintons. For example, five months ago, Doug Hagmann attacked some anonymous target, with some rather strange words at about the 1.52 mark of his April 26, 2016 broadcast,  The Bundy Women; followed by Stan Deyo on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report.

In that broadcast, Doug Hagmann had been stating his opinion that Clinton is a Communist sympathizer and Bernie Sanders is a Socialist, and then he declares, “But Hillary Clinton should be in jail, should be in prison.  And uh, it amazes me and this is something I’ve found out folks and please hear me well on this because there are books about Hillary Clinton.  Listen to me carefully about this.  I never knew this, but there are many books about Clinton by certain authors who will, who will appear to be anti-Hillary or anti-Bill or Anti-Clinton.  Uhhh!! No, they are not! They’re working for ’em!  They’re working for them, I have pictures in their apartments, yeah.  CONFIRMED. Confirmed.  We know who you are.  Yeah, Did you hear me?  It’s a game.  It’s a game…”

When I first heard this accusation, I went to Amazon.com to see how many books there are on the Clintons.  There are so many, one cannot easily pinpoint who Hagmann is referencing.  Are there really several authors who are two faced, and have pictures on their walls proving their duplicity?   I am aware of one author who has done investigative journalism on the Clintons and who was publically attacked by name by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle.   Hagmann sneers at his target, taunting them with “Did you hear me?  It’s a game.  It’s a game…”. Now what is the average listener to the Hagmann Report supposed to learn from such ill defined innuendos and threats?

Continuing on, the  October 13, 2016 broadcast  followed two weeks after the removal of a controversial post which Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle wrote in 2015, which resulted in a defamation lawsuit being filed against them.  A reader of my blog emailed me in reference to the October 13th show,  thinking that I was being referenced in this accusation.  I wrote back that in all probability, Hagmann was referring to two other bloggers, or maybe even  to some political writer I know nothing about.  After all, I have never written a post against Alex Jones, although I may have  referenced his name in a sentence or two.

But soon after, on October 17th,  I received a comment shown below in connection with the Night of the Betrayers/ Dirt Communion post I did on Steve Quayle and the Hagmanns. meroz-blog-comment-1017-2016-2The comment stated among several complaints,  that I sound like a disinformation agent. Personally I thought that the comment was better suited to be attached to the Rosebud article  I wrote.  But reflecting on these accusations,  this comment should have been posted as a complaint against Hagmann under the April 26, 2016 Youtube video of the Hagmann Report, where Doug Hagmann, the infamous PI is claiming to know what pictures are hung in someone’s house.  Talk about following someone around, and trying to discredit them. So who really are the agents of Disinformation, Black Ops, Two Faced Bloggers, and The Art of The Illogical Argument?  Personally, the Hagmann Report deserves a five star rating for their steadfast contribution of disinformation to the American public via the Alternative News Media.

 

 

 

 

 

Michael Erevna of Revelation Now comments on the removal of the February 10, 2015 Hagmann and Quayle article against Erevna and Peschmann

Click on this link to read Hagmann & Quayle Take Down Their Lies “Setting The Record Straight”  by Michael Erevna of Revelation Now, posted October 2, 2016

Click on this link to read what I posted October 20, 2015 on the original article; Weaving The Spider’s Web