Douglas Hagmann on The Extreme Unction of Roger Braun: Chapter 20 of Stained By Blood: A Murder Investigation

If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater:  for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.  He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:  he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.  I John 5:9-11

On March 7, 2016 Tactical Publications released Stained By Blood: A Murder Investigation by Douglas J. Hagmann,  a fictional work based on a true life investigation of the murder of a family member of the author. hagmann stained by blood cover book

After a reader of the Tracking The Leopard Meroz blog sent me a gift of the Kindle copy of this novel, I read the entire book and then posted a review on on April 23, 2016.  I titled this review as a summary comment, saying,  A talent for story telling, which would be better displayed by telling the truth rather than giving us the fictional spin. And as I was in a charitable mindset at that time, I gave this book 3 stars; however, I am not thereby recommending that you waste your money on this book. (If you click on the screen shot below, an enlarged version of my book review is shown.)

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There are currently 70 customer reviews on for the book Stained By Blood; 96% gave 4-5 stars, and 4% gave 1-3 stars, with an overall average of 4.8 out of a possible 5 stars.  With so many gold stars for an unremarkable work of writing, it is interesting that used paperback copies can already be purchased from Amazon, meaning that someone did not think this book was worth reading a second time, or worth passing it onto a friend.

The Amazon bio of the author begins, “Douglas J. Hagmann has been a licensed investigator in the private sector for the last 30 years.  As a private detective, Hagmann has worked well over 5,000 cases and is recognized as a surveillance specialist.  He has worked as an informational asset for various federal and state law enforcement agencies.  Doug Hagmann now hosts a popular radio and video talk show each weeknight…”.  The main character of this novel, Marc Stiles, is also an investigator who presumably represents Hagmann, and is portrayed as a somewhat cynical, gun-toting, rough around the edges man, who is in love with his new girlfriend.

The force of stability in this novel is Gina, who works alongside Marc Stiles.  She is central to the thesis of Chapter 20, The Extreme Unction of Roger Braun, as Gina represents the witnessing Christian, who is prepared to speak to anyone at a moment’s notice about Jesus.  Marc Stiles, as the hardened skeptic, is primarily interested in what Roger Braun knows about the murder of his uncle, and his membership in a secret organization which served as a cover for criminal acts of murder, and the sacrifice of children upon the altar of the devil.

Roger says, “Somehow, Marc, you managed to strike at the center of this group of powerful men.  You are making a lot of people nervous, and your life is about to become worthless if you don’t stop asking questions.  These people would rather kill you than look at you.”  Marc Stiles responds with scoffing, “Yeah, well just who are these “boogeymen” of which you speak”.  This sarcastic question prompts Roger Braun to reprove Marc, saying, “Sonny, you’ve got a lot to learn, and I’d lose that attitude of yours if I was you.  In fact, it could be the death of you.”

The primary reason for this conversation between Roger Braun, who lies dying in a hospital bed, and Marc Stiles and Gina, centers around the murder inquiry of Marc’s uncle. But Roger also expands this inquiry by providing a confession of his own personal criminal acts.  This includes the shooting of his girlfriend in the 1950’s, his imprisonment, sex with both men and women, several rapes including young boys and girls, and his assertion that he was able to escape the consequences of these crimes because he is a “member of a secret organization that involved very powerful and high-profile people in Lakewood and at higher levels of all organizations.”

According to Roger Braun,  Marc’s uncle had “discovered a child sex ring operating in Lakewood”. Marc protests this revelation but Gina interrupts saying, “Marc, be quiet for once and listen”, adding, “Marc, put down your pride for a minute and understand one thing.  What you don’t know can and most likely will kill you.  It does not matter whether you believe me or not.  Your belief, or lack of it, makes no difference, not to me, and certainly not to these people, not to anyone, except that it shows just how ignorant you truly are…”.   Gina is expressing one of Doug Hagmann’s favorite radio broadcast quotes, which makes the fictional character Gina interesting as she is the voice of conscience of Marc, reproving his prideful sarcastic speaking, and his inability to be quiet and listen to others. This role of Gina is often played in real life by Doug Hagmann’s son, Joe, who is always forced into that awkward role of having to temper his father’s cocky and out of control rants.

Roger tells Marc that his uncle had obtained photos of high level officials sodomizing young boys, and in one case a child sacrifice to the devil. Then Roger hands 3 photos from the insole of his left shoe to Marc, and as his breathing becomes more labored, he confesses to Gina, “I did a lot of bad things in my life.  I am truly sorry for everything I did, everyone I hurt, and killed.  I don’t want to go to hell.”  So Gina holds his hand and asks Roger, “Do you know Jesus?’  Roger replies, “I know the devil.  But Jesus?  I don’t know.  What does Jesus have to do with anything?”

At this point, the reader should reflect on the title of this chapter, The Extreme Unction of Roger Braun.  Extreme Unction is a Roman Catholic rite, which some refer to as the Last Rites, which are ministered by a priest when it is feared that a person is very close to death. Sometimes this rite is referred to as a sacrament of the anointing of the sick, because some do recover their health.  As a general overview, here is an article posted on which reviews this doctrine on What Are Last Rites.

Doug Hagmann has mentioned on more than one occasion, that years ago he had briefly had seminary training in connection with Roman Catholicism.  The title of this chapter would seem to confirm that his theology is still shaped by that training.  But the curious thing in Chapter 20 is that while the title is distinctly Roman Catholic, the narrative of Gina’s witness to Roger Braun, displays a Baptist’s compact approach to one-on-one witnessing with a total stranger.

So here we have in a fictional novel based on fact, one chapter which has been devoted to the question of the reality of death-bed conversions through faith in Jesus Christ. We need to ask if the theology presented in Chapter 20 is just another fiction based on fact.

When it comes to Christian conversion which is sealed by the Holy Spirit, there are two truthful witnesses which provide evidence which cannot be contradicted.  The first witness is of course the person who professes to believe in Jesus Christ.  The second testimony is that of God himself.  The standard I have chosen to use in reviewing the conversion of Roger Braun, has three components found in I John 5. These are  the witness of man, the witness of God, and the witness of prayer being heard by God.

The Witness of Man

At the start of this post, I quoted Roger Braun’s confession of his most overt sins and their criminal nature to Gina and Marc.  After this he turns to Gina as a sort of representative of the priesthood, and proclaims that he is sorry, and does not want to go to hell.  And then in answer to a question of whether or not he knows Jesus, he says he knows the devil and asks what Jesus has to do with anything. The first problem is that his remorse is expressed in exactly the same way that condemned criminals who are insincere express themselves to the families of the victims they have murdered and sodomized. Remorse never shows up with such persons until they are either caught or realize that they themselves face imminent death.

“Gina explained to Roger that the way to avoid hell is to profess Jesus as his Lord and Savior. She spent a few minutes explaining that Jesus died for our sins, and we could be forgiven if we profess our belief and submit ourselves to Him.  She had Roger say the sinner’s prayer with her, and left a small New Testament in his hand.”

The motive here that is emphasized by both Roger and by Gina involves avoiding hell, rather than facing the truth of the Godhead who created us, in the first place.  Words that are missing all involve the vast gap between the sinner and the holiness of God. There is a reason why wrath is poured out on the sinner, whose very nature is fallen, and whose deeds, and intents of heart all fall short of the glory of God.  This sin nature even is fully active in those who follow after righteousness through works, and have all the appearance of goodness.

The Apostle Paul plumbs the depth of this and then asks, “But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is the word of faith, which we preach:  That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation…For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved..” (Romans 10:8-10,13)

We are not told what Gina actually said to Roger, but she uses the phrase “Jesus died for our sins” without elaborating on the entire work on the cross plus the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus which proved that this was a work of God accomplished.

Below are three examples of what is often called “The Sinner’s Prayer”.  If you are a Bible believer and reader you will notice immediately that there are distinct differences which are snares to the unwary person who is persuaded to read and depend on such model prayers, prior to examining the gospel through the Scriptures.  The first example is the model seen frequently in Baptist circles, the second is a Catholic-type of Sinner’s Prayer, and the third represents an irreverent prayer which might possibly get one into a deeper hell.

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Has the gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ been proclaimed in the second and third examples of these “Sinner’s Prayer”? Is someone here ashamed of the gospel?  Paul said in Romans 1:17-18, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:  for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.  For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:  as it is written, The just shall live by faith.  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;”.

While some hold up the image of Jesus Christ on the cross as dying for sinners; there were actually three men crucified on that day and in that place. Only one is able to save and deliver men from their sin.    Luke 23:32-33 says, “And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death. And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.  Further in verse 39, “And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. But the other one answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?  And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this man hath done nothing amiss.”

Now recall that the murderer and rapist and fornicator Roger Braun who reproves Marc Stiles for his cocky attitude, confesses in one brief sentence that he is sorry and does not want to go to hell.  The phrasing of this remorse is one which generally would be regarded by the crime victims and their families as to be highly insulting and unconvincing.  The additional shedding of tears by the offender could very well be self serving, rather than an act of humility.  Shortly after Gina’s Christian witness to Roger Braun, he died. Marc and Gina then walk back to the elevators in silence, until Marc asks, “What you did back there, Gina.  The talk of Jesus.  Do your(sp) really think there’s a chance for a guy like that?”

John 3:19-21 states a very deep truth about the heart of mankind, saying, “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

I John 5:10 says, “He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself:  he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son”.  Thus when a person has genuine faith in Jesus Christ, he knows, -for the witness of God is in himself.  Luke 11:33-36 provides this insight:  “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.  The light of the body is the eye:  therefore when thine eye is single; thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, they body also is full of darkness.  If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.”

There is a witness in the true believer of Jesus Christ which can be observed, especially through the eyes, as well as words and deeds.

The Witness of God

There is a witness of God in the genuine believer of God, which reveals itself when  the Christian is persecuted and “brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake”.  Jesus said, “it will turn to you for a testimony”. (Luke 21:12-13).  Jesus Christ promised in verse 15, “For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist”. This type of witness from the indwelling Holy Spirit of the believer also shows in many daily conversations, as well.

While Satan and his ministers can for a time manifest as angels of light, the witness of God within the believer fills him with light and also grants the ability to speak with a great wisdom as may be required to confound the adversary of God. Even when viewing a so-called death-bed conversion, the witness inside a man, whether it be light or darkness ought to be evident.  Can a man on his deathbed who has lived a long life of criminal acts which included murder and sodomizing children, who kept his deeds hidden for years, never once showing mercy and compassion for his victims, suddenly come to saving faith when he realizes that his end is imminent?  It is doubtful, although not impossible. Douglas Hagmann leaves us in doubt about the death-bed conversion of Roger Braun, as he fails to document the witness of God which would have revealed itself in the words and eyes of this dying man.

Prayer which is heard by God

The thief on the cross spoke of the fear of God, being in condemnation and receiving the due reward of his deeds, and as recorded in Luke 23:42-43, finally beseeching the Son of God, saying,  “… Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.  And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” By this hearing of the prayer of the thief, Jesus has confirmed that his words were in the will of God, and that indeed, the thief would enter into paradise rather than hell.

We have no idea in the narration of The Extreme Unction of Roger Braun, what form of the so-called Sinner’s Prayer the dying man said, but it is interesting that the thief on the cross displayed all the elements of a real “death-bed” conversion, even praying face to face with Jesus, who as our Lord and Savior,  was about to take upon himself God’s wrath poured out upon all of the sins of humanity in judgment.  Truly the prayer of the thief displays the promise in  I John 5:14-15, “And this is the confidence that we have in him, that if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:  And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him”. But can we presume that Roger Braun’s reading of some unknown version of a Sinner’s Prayer was heard on high?

In this one theological chapter of Stained By Blood:  A Murder Investigation, the author Doug Hagmann sets up the main character Marc,  which represents himself, to be reproved by both Gina, and the evil man on his death-bed, Roger Braun. And what do they consider his major flaws? He has an attitude, a cockiness which could be the death of him, not knowing when to quit talking and to be quiet, a failure to see the big picture.

I would like to add another observation which Doug Hagmann might want to ponder quietly before launching into an angry tirade against bloggers who quote his words. The concept of including a chapter which discussed the matter of saving faith in Jesus Christ is an interesting one.  But the waters are muddied by identifying this death-bed scenario with the Roman Catholic traditions of the fathers, which overturn the words of God.  The patterning of Gina to appear as a Baptist model of one-on-one witness is the antithesis to the first portrait of her as a confessional priest ministering to a dying man.  The Synthesis is Confusion as to what the gospel of Jesus Christ, the power of God unto salvation to those that believe, really is.  There is Confusion in the details as to what might have really been spoken in this fictional scenario.  There is Confusion when  the truth of the Scriptures is placed within the framework of  fiction, and  falsehood.  No matter how much one asserts that this fiction is  based on fact, the bottom line is that even the facts become highly distorted.  What the reader gets when they open this book is nothing more than another example of a  Male Romance novel.

I stated two primary things in my book review of this work.  First,  the author has a talent for story telling, which would be better displayed by telling the truth than giving us the fictional spin.  Second, Douglas Hagmann does have a personal real life story himself which is interesting in and of itself, but one which he has been afraid to closely examine.

Actual death-bed conversions are rare, although not an impossibility. While there still remains time, it is of utmost importance not to presume that one can have genuine heart repentance in the final minutes of life.  Those who think they are presenting the gospel should ensure that they are presenting the truth of the Scriptures to their readers,  and should never give out a false hope to those who have repeatedly rejected the influence of the Holy Spirit upon their heart and mind and conscience.

Hell is real and not a fiction.



13 thoughts on “Douglas Hagmann on The Extreme Unction of Roger Braun: Chapter 20 of Stained By Blood: A Murder Investigation

  1. if this was a comedy it would be, the smallish woman with pen, picks up one hagmann and beats a hagmann with a hagmann .. .. when your ashamed of the Gospel and use it as bait for your never well informed guest like sloppy steve qualye to come make you look smart because you can read, you win lamest radio show ever! Your never ending the sky is falling down preaching just got bip slapped by a woman who has enough balls to tell the truth about you. laugh follows.. Muhahahahhaaaaaahahhaaaaa

  2. Not really related to the article, but something contained within the text was the quote from Luke 23:42-43. This particular verse has been highly scrutinized for one reason or another: to play down the need for baptism, and to allow for the death bed conversions discussed in the article, etc. But what many may not look at is the basic statement, “This day shalt thou be with me in paradise.” In the Greek, there are no commas. And you have to look at the following events. Did Jesus ascend into paradise that day? He descended into hell, then rose again on the third day, and He didn’t ascend into heaven until the 40th day. So, if there were no commas, or the comma was merely misplaced, it could read: “Verily I say unto you this day, thou shalt be with me in paradise.” For those only interested in the salvation message alone, there is no real difference, but to those interested in the nature of death and resurrection, it could mean a world of difference. I’m sure Jacqueline will see where I’m headed, but I wouldn’t mind hearing some thoughts on the subject. I have no interest, really, in denominational doctrine. I find that most denominations carry doctrines that their members adhere to, even in the face of clear exegesis to the contrary. I am open to clear exegesis, though.

    • You pose an intriguing question. In my case, I laughingly warn, never tempt a writer as to where a comma should be placed, unless you are prepared to pass the morning away, drinking a pot of coffee, while this dilemma is resolved. I argue that the comma in the King James Bible has been rightly placed, so that it reads, This day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

      The thief was speaking to Jesus as they both hung on their respective crosses, awaiting death, according to Dt. 21:22-23,”for he that is hanged is accursed of God”. In Matthew 12:40 we read of the sign of Jonas, which pointed to the Son of Man being three days and nights in the heart of the earth. Hell is located in the heart of the earth, for we read in Ez. 31:16 the phrase “cast down to hell” and in Isaiah 14:16, “hell from beneath”.

      But we find at the time prior to the resurrection, that right next to hell, separated by a great gulf, is Abraham’s bosom. This is described in Luke 16:19-31 in the story of the rich man and the beggar, Lazarus. When the rich man died, prior to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, there was a holding place of comfort called Abraham’s bosom, where Abraham went when he died. Both Jew and Gentile believers in Christ have a promise based on Abraham’s justification by faith. At the resurrection the Old Testament saints were brought up, and paradise was relocated in heaven as mentioned in 2 Corinthians 12:4 “caught up to paradise”, and in Revelation 2:7 where we see “the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.”

      When the thief died on the cross the same day as Jesus, he went to paradise located at that time in the heart of the earth. One of the puzzling aspects of the scriptures is rightly dividing the word of truth, as God uses types and antitypes, patterns in earth and in heaven. At one time there was a physical location of Eden, paradise, a garden of God where two trees stood. After the fall, cherubim were placed to keep men out. Then when the second Adam became death for us, and was resurrected, we see paradise in heaven.

      Your question is an excellent one, and I am not a Bible scholar. I am just someone who reads and believes and ponders the Scriptures. The more I read of the entire Bible, the more I feel as if I am standing on top of a mountain, enjoying a panoramic view. The advantage of reading the whole Bible through is that the reader begins to build a concordance in their mind, so that all of those words of God which were spoken merge into a fuller picture of understanding. I am always ready to hear a question asked, which forces me again to ponder what is really meant. So thanks for the question, Karl, I enjoyed the path of thought that it took me down.

      • I thought you might like that. Here’s another one: what if the example of Abraham’s bosom was a commentary on the theology of the Sadducees, and not an example of the truth? I’m not arriving at these thoughts independently. I have heard this argument before, from a certain commenter, and so I wonder about them. So many trails to go down…

  3. Karl, I looked on line to see if there were any thoughts on Abraham’s bosom and the connection with the Sadducees, and did not see anything which would clarify this particular argument. Can you go into more detail with regard to this argument, so that I can understand what this topic really implies? I am walking around in a fog on this one.

    • You will get a lot more in the video link than what I plucked to present to you, but the Thief on the Cross reference is at 27:00 and the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus at 45:45. I suggest you watch the entire video to get the full flavor of the argument, but the shortcuts will show where I got the questions from.

      Again, these are or may be a denominational doctrine. I understand that, but I find that if I stay too comfortable within a particular denominational swim lane, I rarely learn anything new.

  4. JC, thanks so much for posting a link to Bullinger’s essay. He covers the verses in the Bible thoroughly, plus adds interesting insights on what the Talmud says also.

    Karl, I watched the entire video of Walter Veith, and found him very engaging. He starts very carefully laying the groundwork for his thesis, but the reason there are puzzling questions about the Sadducees and Abraham’s bosom at the end, is that he does not examine his own proposition in enough detail. I looked up all the passages on the Sadducees to see what the scriptures zero in on, when discussing their doctrine, which Jesus calls leaven. While the Luke 16 “Rich man and Lazarus” story does hit the Sadducees on not knowing and believing all that Moses and the prophets said on resurrection, the fact remains that Jesus speaks as if this story was factually true. It is not called a parable. So in my mind, I do not consider this story as a mere commentary on the Sadducees only, but as a broad factual approach to many topics within one example. Thanks for posing your questions. I gained a lot from reading the Bible with these questions in mind. Somehow I have come away with a fuller understanding than I had before of the position of the Sadducees, and also the question of death and the hope of the resurrection, so this was a very profitable exercise for me.

    • Thanks also to JC for the reference. The best exegesis on the subject I originally raised, that I have read. Very enlightening. This is my understanding of the Scriptures on the subject of death and resurrection.

      So, as I wade through the writings and testimony of those who promote a “spiritistic” view of death, and all the testimonial visits to heaven and hell, etc. I find myself wondering just what is going on.

      What exactly is at work here? I can’t help but think about how God obviously allows us to believe untruths, even those of us who claim a deep understanding and connection to the Holy Spirit. We see through a glass darkly, and someday the Scriptures will be opened to our full understanding. The nominal Christian takes for granted that smarter and more studied people have rightly divided the Word, and accept their doctrine as true, yet there is so much error.

      I’m not claiming truth for myself, but rather keep my mind open for the truth, and accept that I may only receive it bit-by-bit, piece-by-piece, and never really achieve full understanding, until all is said and done.

      Perhaps the bottom line is that we are only able, as humans, to scratch the surface of truth, or are limited in our faculties to understand it, and the Word does the best it (He) can to convey it to us. Conversely, the enemy capitalizes on our error. Reinforces it in our understanding through false testimony, and a false prevailing narrative. He infiltrates the churches, and clouds our minds.

      I really enjoy your articles and your general discourse, Jacquelyn (sorry for misspelling it earlier). It’s nice to have a place to go where people don’t have it all figured out, or at least lay claim to it. I most certainly do not!

      God bless,


  5. I don’t listen to these guys anymore for various reasons, but this book is one of them. I heard the promo for it back in the spring and was most uncomfortable with the dramatization of a work of fiction dealing with such an unspeakable topic. I understand this type of crime happens. But I find it hard to believe that the Holy Spirit guides a person to make money off a fictionalized account of such horror. Could not a person’s writing skills be put to better use?

    • Bella; you make an excellent point Indeed,:Ephesians 5:12 clearly states: “For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret”. So why would a “Christian” write a fictionalized account of such dark matters in defiance to a Scriptural admonition?

      He no doubt will tell us that he is “educating” us on these matters and we have a NEED to know.

      Do we really need a Phd in evil?

      Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things

      I worry that the author is “normalizing” evil to his Christian audience. Over time, repeated exposure “desensitizes” the Christian to evil and and it may eventually lose its “sting”. It may become “No big deal” so to speak. If it does, do we stop fighting evil as vigorously? Do we stop fighting it altogether? Could the potential exist that we finally just acquiesce and embrace evil?.

      Your Thoughts?

  6. b.frieseman,

    I don’t think we all are called to learn the deep things of Satan. If it is DH’s idea to educate believers about such things, it could be done in such a way that facts are presented without detailing the horror in a graphic way. I don’t believe that is helpful and may even be harmful to very sensitive people. It could also pique an unhealthy interest in an unstable person; not everyone can handle this type of depravity.

    Desensitize = Normalize = Acceptance: it’s been done for decades. Divorce, homosexuality, abortion, cohabitation, unwed mothers, crass language, corrupt politicians, corrupt government control, occultism. I could go on, but I’m sure you get the drift.

    I have been reading the book of Daniel. How did he and the three Hebrew youths live in what was surely the NWO of those times? They were in captivity, but chose to live honorably before God. They served the King and obeyed in all civil matters unless they contradicted God’s laws. A horrible death was their sentence for disobedience, but God showed up and protected them completely. We would all do well to study Daniel – the latest (and last) evil NWO is ensnaring us little by little.
    Moral of the story: know your God and know He fights for you.

    Here’s a great quote by C.S. Lewis:

    “There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. They themselves are equally pleased by both errors and hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight.”

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