A Challenge to All Forums and Blogtalk Christians to Discuss This Post

This week a question was posed on a Christian Forum by one of its members, Sky Pilot, which was promptly deleted before any of the other members had a chance to respond. At Tracking the Leopard Meroz, we are reposting this question in order to allow a free discussion of the subject matter. A proper answer to the question posed, requires a familiarity with both the Old and the New Testaments, and an understanding as to why a Christian might approach a particular issue differently than an Israelite who lived under a theocracy set up by the same God.

Just as a reminder, I would like to note that forums, chat rooms, blogs, and blogtalk radio programs belong to the person who sets them up; and like a private home, the owner has the right and privilege to set the rules as to who sets foot in their home, and what speech is allowed.  Thus the secondary question here is not whether or not the forum owner has the right to delete a question they do not like; they do have that right and privilege.

The question I have in regard to Christian internet websites,  is whether it is wise in the long run to censor a legitimate question posed by a commenter or forum member, when the question involves searching the Scriptures for greater understanding of present day situations. The members of the body of Christ are to be edifying to each other, to instruct, to warn, to care about each other’s welfare. None of us have all of the spiritual gifts, we need each other, and we need to learn to search the Scriptures together.

The following is a screenshot of the forum post written by Sky Pilot.  Anyone who has any thoughts on the question which he asks, is invited to comment on this website.

Forum comment posted by Sky Pilot

Forum comment posted by Sky Pilot

 

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10 thoughts on “A Challenge to All Forums and Blogtalk Christians to Discuss This Post

  1. Prophecy is a confusing subject for many Christians. In the OT, it was clear that a prophet was legit if what he prophesied came to pass. (Was there was a time limit in which the prophecy must occur? IDK.) We are warned in the NT that false prophets will come, but other than relying on the Holy Spirit to guide us, how will we know? This subject is one of several that sent me scurrying from charismatic churches into a more traditional setting.

    As to the forum, it would seem Sky Pilot poked a finger in someone’s eye. He is right on, but I fail to see why his comment would be deleted unless …

    Prophecy is also a BIG BUSINESS, but I digress.

    • Our Scriptures speak more often of true prophets being killed than false ones. Many of the prophecies of Isaiah and Daniel and Zechariah and Ezekiel and Jeremiah have yet to be fulfilled, so it would be pretty futile to put a prophet to death for prophesying what would not come to pass in his life time. What Jesus taught is to beware of false prophets. Yet, James 5:20 says not to despise prophesyings but to test all things and hold fast to what is true.
      I believe David Wilkerson was a true prophet, and I’m watching much of what he said God showed him, coming true now, years after his death.

      • I agree about David Wilkerson – he’s the only person I’ve really paid attention to. If they’re working the net and selling a product, I’m not interested.

  2. Luke 13:34
    34O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! 35Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

  3. We often hear in the ACM the verse in Joel:

    Joel 2:28-29

    28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
    29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

    And in Acts, we hear Peter say:

    Acts 2:14-17

    14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
    15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
    16 But THIS is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
    17 And it shall come to pass in the last days…(quotes Joel 2 verses verbatim) (my capitalization)

    My question is this: When did the Last Days begin? According to Peter, they began at Pentecost.

    I was caught up in the “Prophecy at 6:00 – Latest Intel from Jesus!” thing a few years back. It was exciting, sure, but ultimately it began to grate on me. Especially when it came from folks with questionable theological views, or back biters who attacked others on YouTube. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. If they don’t have Jesus right, then they don’t speak for Him, as far as I’m concerned.

  4. I think the bigger question here is whether the writer has the right to critique these so-called prophets and be critical, or is he being judgmental? And what about free speech? Sure, we can cite scripture all day long to defend or chastise these prophets (?) but that doesn’t give them license or credibility. These type never find their way into mainstream media or main stream churches. No, they only get a stage because people like Quayle, Wiles and Hagmann give them a platform. Then of course there’s untold proxies and foot soldiers of Quayle who recycle it until it’s last breath.

    Last week Trunews had a fireman on who was told by the Lord that Trump is His anointed and is going to win. He promised that America and the dollar would be restored to greatness and on and on. Through the interview he peppered his “thus said the Lord” with conjecture and fanciful thoughts because he could. Meanwhile, Mr. Wiles was happy to participate and contribute his own “thus said the Lord.” The problem is, twice within the last six months Mr. Wiles gave a woman by the name of Mena Lee Griben the opportunity to spew her end time scenario which was certain destruction and judgement for America. Let us not forget Rebecca Stirling and the parade of others who he continues to parade out.

    The real questIon for me and I think the writer of this blog site has it right. The finger needs to be pointed to the charlatans who could care less who they interview or their bona fides, so long as the storyline comports with theirs and keeps the listeners tuned in and mailing in, their love offerings of course. By the way, Tom Horn releases a new book next month telling us who the Anti Christ is. Apparently he has some very reliable sources within the Vatican who are very eager and happy to write his story lines. Mmm.

    I say bravo Sky Pilot, keep speaking your mind. No, these wannabe prophets can’t all be right, but none of this is new. You’re so right, they can’t all be hearing from Jesus if they all differ. Maybe Hollywood needs to revive the old show….To Tell the Truth. Will the real Jesus please stand up.

    David

    • Good job, David.

      I rarely listen to Quayle or H&H anymore. And never TruNews. I gotta say that even when I was steeped in that stuff, Rick Wiles really rubbed me the wrong way. Just kinda slimy to me. He’s called some prophetic words that didn’t happen, himself. Add-in the goofball over at “It’s Supernatural!” who has reduced Our Lord to an infomercial. I could list a lot of names.

      My earlier comment was strangely edited by me and not proofread, apparently (by me). I guess my point was to say that the Alternative Christian Media uses that verse from Joel to say that these are the last days, for some, beginning in either 1948 or 1967, and therefore we should be expecting an outpouring of the Holy Spirit, which manifests itself in thousands of prophecies. How does one sort them all out?

      Well, do what SQ does: “Take it to The Lord!” And I think the point you’re making is that these ACM elites are giving the impression that they are already doing that for us, or not at all, and just using the shotgun approach. “I’ll throw it out there and let the plebes decide what to believe. Not my problem. Don’t shoot the conduit!”

      Here’s the other side: If you’re trying to make a living on YouTube, and everybody’s got a Word from the Lord, then how do you compete? (I’m being a little facetious, here).

      Does anybody really think that God would tell someone who’s going to win the next election? Why would he do that? So you can speak it forth and then people can wager on it?

      Just thinking aloud a bit. I liked your comment.

      • Anyone who makes a comment, and after pushing the button, realizes that a sentence needs to be rewritten, can email me at jacquelyn113@hotmail.com. I will edit the comment for you, if you tell me how you want it to read. Don’t be embarrassed, several people have already had me change a thing or two, or ten….No one who comes to this blog seems to very adept on the keyboard, including me.

      • The question that must be asked is Cui bono?

        Did Ski Pilot stand to gain anything from his comment? It looks like he is only seeking clarity in response to the annoying confusion conflicting ‘prophecies’ bring. Quite frankly everyone on that forum should have been annoyed; not only by the inconsistency of these ‘prophesies’ but by the sloppy discipline of the monitor for allowing conflicting ‘opinions’ to be put forth as ‘prophesy’.

        Lets go a little further and ask: Was Ski Pilots post taken down because it challenged someones personal, political or financial agenda? If so, who, what and why are appropriate questions to be asked.

  5. This is a good question and I think it’s important to address it and discuss it. Deuteronomy 13:5 says that if a prophet arose that turned the people away from the Lord, that prophet should be put to death. Not if he or she prophesied falsely, but if he or she incited people to follow other gods.

    If you study the kings of Israel and Judah, you will notice that God always provided a prophet to speak to the situations and times of each king. Some of the prophets prophesied things that wouldn’t come to pass for centuries, such as the unknown prophet to Jeroboam about the altar that Josiah would burn bones on (I Kings 13), and there was no way of testing that prophecy.

    Amos 3:7 says that the God will do nothing without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets. Maybe the things that Mona Lee Grebin and others have seen of judgment have been warnings that can be reversed through earnest prayer and repentance. Lately I have been paying attention to how many groups there are in this country across denominations and states who are earnestly interceding for this nation, repenting on behalf of America’s sins, pleading for mercy, paying the price of fasting, obeying, and interceding. Could it be that enough have done so to reverse things that were going to happen otherwise, such as Obama continuing on to a third term, or a finally destructive judgment on this nation? What is God’s heart toward this nation? Does He hate it and want to destroy it? What about all the people who love and serve Him and feel anguish about the condition of deterioration this country has come to? The loudest voices of hate and evil are not the majority. For example, Trump’s wild success is a measure of the vast silent majority who do not agree with the current climate of political correctness and intolerant tolerance. As for the need for prophets in this day and age, we need them more than ever now. I think we have to hold the seemingly conflicting voices in suspended judgment while we test and examine them for fruit, but not to turn our backs on all prophetic voices.

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