“We cannot tolerate improprieties as to the gospel” Nathan Leal
Nathan Leal of the Watchman’s Cry: A Herald to Prepare has long been part of the inner circle of repeat guests on the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show. On December 18, 2015 he was listening to Dr. Ted Broer on the Hagmann and Hagmann radio show, and became disturbed by the linking of certain New Age terminology relating to the chakras as well as to the pineal gland, as the Third Eye, with our ability to communicate with God in the “thirteenth dimension”. Nathan Leal points out that when we are saved we are connected to the Lord in the spirit, and not through a renewal of the pineal gland or the third eye. When Nathan Leal called Dr. Broer at home to discuss these concerns, he was reproved for calling at dinner time, asked if he had a degree in biochemistry, and apparently was hung up on.
On December 23d, Nathan Leal sent a letter of resignation to Hear the Watchmen.com which is sponsoring a conference on March 18-20,2016 in Dallas, Texas. Nathan Leal had been asked to be a primary speaker at the revival aspect of this conference. This website now lists the “Inspired Speakers as of 1/1/16” as Doug and Joe Hagmann, John B. Wells, Pastor Billy Crone, Pastor David Lankford, L.A. Marzulli, Paul McGuire, Rev. Flip Benham, Coach Dave Daubenmire, Gregg Jackson, Dr. Ted and Sharon Broer, and John Robberson. Nathan Leal’s name has been removed. The banner adverstising this conference says, HEAR THE WATCHMEN “God does not call the qualified he qualifies the called”. The End. Jesus Wins.
God does not call the qualified? So why does Dr. Ted Broer think that Nathan Leal needs a degree in biochemistry to question a statement he makes? Nathan Leal says that he responded to Broer, asking him, “Do you have a degree in theology?” The Bible says in Psalms 62:9 says, “Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity”.
Also on the Dave Hodges Commonsense Show, Dave Hodges defends Dr. Ted Broer’s version of events, calling this matter trivial. However, Nathan Leal quotes in his version of events, Galatians 1:6-10 which says, “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than this which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”
Nathan Leal has created an audio dated December 30, 2015 called Audio Message- Why I Resigned from the Hear The Watchman Conference- Nathan’s Expose. In this audio he details his concerns regarding deception in the church, noting that his calling as a Watchman requires honesty and integrity. He reminds his listeners that “teachers will incur a stricter judgment”, and warns those who call themselves Watchmen and are public figures that use the alternative media, whether through radio or websites, that they will be held accountable to God. Leal says that he followed protocol in discussing his concerns with everyone involved, including the upcoming conference participants. He was apparently not well received; some never returning his calls or dismissing him. He says that now he is being “tarred and feathered” as hateful and judgmental. It is obvious if you listen to Leal’s audio message, which includes partial recordings from the Hagmann and Hagmann and the Dave Hodges’ shows, that this serious topic is being spun as a trivial matter which was hyped up by Nathan Leal. The actual issue which Leal has brought up has yet to be honestly addressed by either Dr. Ted Broer or the “Watchmen” radio hosts. To properly understand the subtlety of this particular concern, I recommend that you listen to the Audio Message yourself, and do your own evaluation. Leal suggests that his audio will probably be up just for awhile, so now is the time to listen to it.
UPDATE January 5, 2015
Michael Erevna, over at his website Revelation Now.net, has posted his commentary on Nathan Leal to remind us of the time that his original research had been stolen out from under him in order to advance the Hagmann/Leal agenda. This article is entitled Lying, Unethical, Nathan Leal: Cries Foul. Aurora Justicia has left two comments under this article, noting that the inner circle of trust of the Hagmann/Quayle Watchmen group is being destroyed from the inside out. Now that Nathan Leal has taken his stand, he will never again be a featured guest on the Hagmann and Hagmann show, nor will he ever be invited to one of their sponsored conferences again. These persons never forgive a betrayal or a slight. The strange thing about all of this is why Nathan Leal stood up on this particular issue, when to my knowledge he never stood up against any of the other public sins of this group before.
UPDATE January 8, 2016
The audio by Nathan Leal explaining the reason why he resigned from the upcoming conference in Dallas has been taken down from his website.
Steve Quayle and Pastor David Lankford discuss this matter on the Hagmann & Hagmann Report which can viewed here.
Websites/Videos which have commented on Nathan Leal in the past
For some reason, I have never felt led to write a post on the prophetic insights of Nathan Leal. Based on behind the scenes comments I have received, there has been an ongoing controversy about him over the years which involve false prophecy, plagiarism, his actual wealth while claiming low income, the true state of his health, etc. If any one sends me a link on a website or video which has discussed these issues surrounding Leal, I will link it here.