And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. Revelation 21:16-17
Back around 1999 I decided to make a square quilt based on Revelation 21, which describes New Jerusalem. The 12 foundations of the wall of the city are made from jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprasus, jacinth and amethyst. The first thing I had to do was go to the Denton County library to study photos of these precious stones, and from there find a corresponding batik fabric which closely resembled each stone. I could not locate a fabric for one of the stones, so I overlaid a sparkly silver translucent ribbon over a white fabric. Then I precisely cut out 144 one and a half inch squares, thirty six times. From there I began piecing and sewing the quilt based on a design layout of the order of the stones for the foundation walls.
Anyone who has tried to fit imperfect materials into a precise design, knows that the more edges there are, the greater the larger design will be off. In quilting, once a standard quilt block is made, it must be “squared up” to form a perfect square, otherwise the whole design in the end will not lie perfectly flat. In my New Jerusalem quilt, I had a lot of opportunity for deviation, and patience was required in trying to piece 144 small squares together to form a perfect 12 inch square. What I had not reckoned on was that the ribbon-overlaid fabric, by being twice the thickness, was going to be trouble indeed. By the time I created 36 larger squares, I had trouble squaring up each block, while I was also trying to have all the little squares line up exactly. The only solution was to connect the squares with each other using a half inch wide length of another batik fabric that looked like light. In the end, the quilt design looked like an overhead view of the Great Pyramid of Giza made out of the foundation stones of New Jerusalem. It was beautiful, but it did not represent my original intention.
I am using this example to illustrate the necessity in life to constantly “square up” thoughts and actions; otherwise the end result of small deviations will result in something highly out of order. I was thinking of this particular quilt recently, as I was going through chapter after chapter of David Flynn’s Temple at the Center of Time: Newton’s Codex Finally Deciphered and the Year 2012. I am not quite through the entire book yet. It has been hard for me to want to continue because there are numerous problems with the soundness of the underlying thesis, which is exacerbated by the sloppy writing of the author.
When I first began this book, I was not expecting to find such a mess. I had seen David Flynn’s website, and knew that many people enjoyed his lectures, and he always seemed to come across as a real nice guy. This book does not appear to be the result of an act of love of the subject, but rather a gathering of notes which may have been categorized for a slide show. I have no idea if this is correct; I am just speculating here, trying to understand things. It is as if someone had made notes for a high school research paper, using the technique of 3×5 cards, which had been cut and pasted together in accordance with the chapter titles. There is no effort on the part of the author to engage the reader, to guide and teach in a way that produces understanding, and the style of writing is notable for it’s lack of personality. And then of course, we have in hindsight, the fact that he was proven wrong on the “2012” aspect, which is what had been the primary selling point by Tom Horn’s Defender Books. Incidentally, Tom Horn had also produced a 2012 book product called, Apollyon Rising 2012.
David Flynn fudged his way through his entire “thesis” which had to do with his version of the distance/time relationship between important historical dates and locations of cities as measured from the foundation stone of the Temple Mount at Jerusalem. It does not matter whether one is examining David Flynn’s mathematics, chronology, foot notes, or use of scriptures; he decidedly was imprecise, so that the reader could not ascertain the exact reasoning he was employing in order to “prove” his thesis.
Here are some words of flattery which were written about David Flynn in “A Note from Steven Quayle” found on page 213-14 of The David Flynn Collection. At the top of this note, Quayle quotes Jonathan Swift as saying, “When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him”. Steve Quayle is amusingly consistent in his continual attempts to inhibit any real thinking on the part of other people. But what do I care if this false man of God considers me a dunce?
Quayle’s first paragraph says, “David Flynn, like Isaac Newton before him, was a “GIANT” in the understanding of the God of Creations’ infinite majesty, power, and presence throughout the universe displayed. Every generation has its heaven-sent ‘Time Keepers’ to remind the world that we all have an appointed time and season of revelation and purpose to all that we see around us. It is as if the Almighty God holds specific time locks to His Revelations and specific messengers tasked with bringing it forth.”
He continues, “Sir Isaac Newton stated, “IF I HAVE SEEN FURTHER THAN OTHERS, IT IS BY STANDING UPON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS”. Steve Quayle seems to be always preoccupied by Giants. Now normally we understand this to mean the giants in Genesis 6; but here he likens David Flynn to Sir Isaac Newton. After reading Temple At the Center of Time, I personally consider this a great insult to the genius of Newton, whose laborious detailed study of mathematics and Bible Chronology among other things, was outstanding, foundational to modern thinking, and he produced very precise scholarly works. David Flynn, by contrast, is no scholar, let alone a great one. He has been singled out as he had some interests in Ufology, etc. from his teen years which he had communicated to others, therefore gaining a measure of notoriety in Montana years ago.
Mark Flynn writes in his introduction to the David Flynn Collection, “While he was writing Cydonia, Dave would email or call me and me about the latest portions he had completed. It seemed as if every time we talked I would sense a marvelous explosion of light in my head. One day he called and told me how Steven Quayle had called him and said, matter-of-factly, “God told me to get your book published.” Dave said that he didn’t know who Steve was and didn’t tell anyone about the book, but at the same time, he wasn’t surprised that the Spirit would have instructed Steve in such a manner. Dave often told me that the things he was writing weren’t a product of his own learning or intellect, but given to him by the Spirit.”
We see David Flynn’s name mentioned in an excerpt taken from a Tom Horn book which was referenced by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle on February 10, 2015 in their Setting the Record Straight: Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway. At the end of this peculiar declaration it says, “To our listeners and readers, we submit to you that we are seeing exactly what author Tom Horn wrote about in book Blood on the Altar, where he writes about sinister demonic forces assaulting true Christian ministries. Excerpted from page 31. “…just about every Bible Expositor I know has been tirelessly harassed online the last few years by fake defenders of the faith”. “With that in mind, the next time you are online reading some diatribe about Chuck Missler, Gary Stearman, Steve Quayle, David Flynn, J. R. Church, L.A. Marzulli, Chris Putnam, Jonathan Cahn, yours truly, or any of the current favorite targets, ask yourself if the hatchet people attacking them ever bothered with scripture…” “Be careful little eyes what you read,” because destructive forces seek to contaminate your mind and spirit (see Prov. 4:23-27) in order to prep you for service to the dark side”. There are three more paragraphs added, and this joint response concludes in red lettered words, Indeed, there is Blood on the Altar.
Now, I have no idea what is meant by this last sentence printed in blood red, but after comparing the assertions made in this document with the published responses by the two persons particularly targeted, it is clear that these self-proclaimed Watchmen sent by God are themselves liars, slanderers and from the dark side.
Now there are many persons who look up to Doug and Joe Hagmann, Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, the late David Flynn and others within their inner circle of trust. Some of these people are sweet and naïve, some are deceived, and some know the truth about the ungodly and unrighteous actions and words of these men, and still they follow them. One of the distinctives of the followers of this group is that they like usurping the prophetic offices of God. They behave as if they are above the law of God and of the land, and their looseness of doctrine has given rise to hubris. Not one of these “anointed leaders” seems to seriously consider that their thoughts and actions need to be squared with Scripture.
The other day I read a post on the Watchers’ Forum site, which is intimately connected with David Flynn’s website and his updated version of Renaissance “Christian occult style” theology. After one member had quoted a questionable assertion made by the late David Flynn, I asked a question which seemed to overturn one of the tenets of this group, that willful ignorance is commendable in the sight of God.
This is what I asked: ” ____, would you be so kind as to explain the mathematics behind your statement that Roswell is one of the few places on earth where the longitude divided by the latitude is almost exactly the mathematical PI? If Longitude/Latitude = 3.14159, then this can be shown as Longitude = 3.14159 x Latitude. If we plug into Latitude any number greater than zero and less or equal to 57.2958, we get an infinite number of longitude points which range from a number greater than zero, to numbers less or equal to 180 degrees. If we take advantage of the various combinations of the N-S-E-W designation of coordinates, we can easily plot the points generated from the above equation on any earth map, whether it is viewed in a 2-dimensional, or spherical layout. Thus rather than there being few points which meet your criteria, there are an infinite number. If I have misunderstood your statement, please clarify.”
All I did was try to square up David Flynn’s statement with the simplest of mathematical theories, that Sir Isaac Newton would have endorsed. We are talking Middle School level math here. The fact of the matter is this; the devoted followers of David Flynn are not interested in truth. They do not follow the New Testament admonition in I Thessalonians 5:21 to Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. The fact is that I asked this question as a friend, for there are several members over at that forum which I like. But after a few more word exchanges, the moderator of the forum threatened to throw me out of the forum.
If one has not been squaring every day thoughts and actions with scripture, by the time your life is done, it will be totally out of whack. And what will you say when God asks you a simple question; instead of someone like me, who has needed God’s help in everything I do just to make it through this temporal journey? David Flynn made a grievous error in trying to measure everything from a foundation stone of a temple which God himself destroyed. It would be better to look carefully at the description of New Jerusalem, and reread Isaiah 28:16-17, “Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.”