Internationally Recognized Prophecy Expert, Author and Speaker Paul McGuire Threatens to Out the “Anonymous” Author of the Tracking the Leopard Meroz blog

And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? Shall they not both fall into the ditch?  Luke 6:39

On November 27, 2015 I received a comment from Paul McGuire on my About Page.  Here is a screen shot of this page with his comment.

Notice the Poor Man’s Copyright to the right of the page which declares twice that Jacquelyn Weaver is the author of the blog Tracking The Leopard Meroz.

Now one of the things Paul McGuire accuses me of  is “I don’t see you giving your real name in your Blog which implies you are hurling the accusations while you yourself have not disclosed who you really are, which means you have something to hide.”  Now when I read this comment to one of my regular readers, there was great hilarity.  This reader  considered replying to Paul McGuire’s comment by pointing out the obvious, “Look over to the right, Jacquelyn Weaver’s name is printed twice, next to your comment!”  But  then this reader read this statement, “Of course I already know you(sp) real name and who you are and something about you because I work with people who provide this information”.  No doubt most of the information these “people” have on me comes straight from my blog. After all, my name is not only disclosed on my Notice of The Poor Man’s Copyright, but it is also shown at the bottom of each post.  Also on my main page I give hyperlinks to my other blogs, which include photos of my house and yard, kitchen, sewing and painting projects, and my style of writing includes much biographical information, including that I live in Purvis, Mississippi.  Aurora Justicia’s Facebook which is linked in one of my articles, shows three actual photos of me, and while I am years older now, I still retain “that look”.

So these brilliant people of Paul McGuire’s are so stupid that they cannot seem to understand that my real name is Jacquelyn Weaver.  And because they are the blind leading the blind, they think I am hiding something.  Paul McGuire is so sure of this conclusion that he thinks he is taking the high road when he states, “If you want to ask me questions publicly and give out your real name and who you are, I will be happy to answer your questions.  But at least I come out an(sp) let people who I am. In contrast, you hide who you are, which speaks volumes”.  Mr. McGuire you have made a real fool of yourself here.  Are you sure that this comment was not posted by one of your stupider employees, who posted it to the wrong blog?  Is this some standard comment you make to anyone who describes facts about you which you refuse to address?

You claim that I am not accurate, which makes my comments a lie, yet you do not cite any particular statement I have made in which you care to refute with “real” facts.  Perhaps you are concerned that some IRS auditor might wonder if you do indeed have a local church which meets the requirements for the IRS tax exemptions.  Why are you not showing me  videos of all of your Sunday morning, Sunday evening, Wednesday night church services which show you preaching before a real congregation, and which allow us to view real worship in song and word?  I would be glad to let my readers view a year’s worth of these services, and to also explain to them that I am correcting my “misperceptions” of your so called Senior Pastor ministry of a local congregation.  Please name all of your deacons and trustees as well.  And since you hate anonymity, why not disclose the names and personal information on each of these people which you work with who provide you information? Or are you trying to threaten me with your Bully boys by implying you have something on me which is hidden from the sight of my readers.  I would really like to know what that might be, since your investigation of me is so thorough, that you have convinced yourself that my real name is not my real name.

 

 

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Sockpuppets for Christ

No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.  The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.  Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.  If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light.  Luke 11:33-36

2 Timothy 1:7 says, For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind”. Now a sound mind, you would think, is an essential attribute of the Christian. Recently,  I was listening to a Hagmann and Hagmann internet radio show featuring Steve Quayle and Pastor Kyle.   I noticed that Kyle had restated his theological position that all Christians have demons and need to be delivered by a deliverance minister, such as him. Now the Bible testifies that there is such a condition as being possessed by devils, and I am not treating that subject lightly.  But closely connected to this Charismatic  theory which normalizes the demonic, rather than the human, basis of sin in the Christian life, is the common practice of the use of anonymous identities on the internet. But the fact remains, that when I sin, it is “I” that sins.   Sockpuppets ought not to be blamed for the troubles of the Puppeteer.

Those who have read the “About” page of this blog know that a number of years ago I came to understand that my youngest daughter, at the age of 14, had come under the attack of a strong sorcerous curse.  As a result of trying to protect her and identify the originators of this attack, I entered into spiritual warfare as I had not known before.  She was the one the attackers were targeting, rather than me directly, because  of her vulnerability.  As her mother, I stepped in the gap during that time frame in an attempt to turn her situation around.

But as a Christian who is realistic about the nature of mankind, I knew that there would come a day when my daughter would have to mature and take full responsibility for the fruit of her own sin, and for her belief or unbelief in Jesus Christ and the words of God. When that time arrived, she ignored sound counsel and found herself under the discipline of God, who then used the court system, evil friends and other events to reveal to her the depth and the truth of her own sin.  She and I have always remained close through it all, but the question the Lord posed to me was, How much does she want my salvation?

The simplicity of Christ is a wonderful thing, but to those who take careless advantage of the grace of salvation, I ask whether you regard your salvation, or that of anyone else, to be the precious thing that it is?  As I peruse the “Christian”  Alternative Media Network, there are two main descriptors which stand out, and neither describes a company of persons which the Christian should be associating with.  The first descriptor is 2 Peter 2:1-3, But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.  And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:  whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

The second is 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (which actually begins in the middle of a sentence, but which I am giving you the last part, for emphasis sake).  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Repeatedly I have discussed the deceptive practices, the merchandising tactics, the use of witnesses with false names and false credentials, false churches, and false theology of the Steve Quayle/Doug Hagmann inner circle of trust.  Outside of this inner circle are wandering planets of fake blogsites, which do nothing more than repost radio programs associated with this group, in an apparent attempt to flood out the search engine positions of lesser blogs which might oppose this mammoth powerhouse.  Two websites which accommodate this flooding of the internet with spurious articles and re-postings of the “Christian” Alternative Media propaganda are Before It’s News.com and All News Pipeline.com.  The former site was created on September 15, 2007, using a proxy registrant; the latter on July 7, 2014 naming Susan Duclos of Helena, Montana as the registrant.  I was interested in a complaint made to the Ripoff Report against Before Its News which indicated that they had dealt with Stefan Stanford, who is, or was at one time, the boyfriend of Susan Duclos.  So it would appear that there is a close link between both news sites.

Many persons have suggested that this network was the creation of the CIA or some other government entity.  The constant use of secret so-called government insiders by Quayle, Hagmann, Hodges, Hawk and others has lent credibility to this argument.  And who listens to this stuff?  Blogtalk radio  provides a chat room,  and these alternative news sites allow for  comments to be made from their readers, so that there is a continual chatter which emanates from this section of the universe.  I have read hundreds of comments from these various sources, and I would guess that for every  thoughtful, sincere comment, there are a hundred which are nothing but drivel.  I have no idea whether the drivel comes from an empty soul devoid of thought, or from some troll who is deliberately toning down the maturity level of the comment stream.  What I want to address here is the situation where someone who most likely is a genuine believer in Jesus Christ, displays conduct on these comment forums, which is not consistent with the high calling of Christianity.

Now we all know that there are legitimate reasons why one might assume an anonymous identity while perusing the internet’s forums and chat rooms.  I am not going to go into those pro and con arguments.  My warning is directed to Christians who think that they can be Sockpuppets for Christ, and while operating under false pretenses, be a credible witness for God.

The following definition of a “sockpuppet” comes from various online sources such as Wikipedia, and together they define the various applications of this word, such as a fake identity used to make comments or additions anonymously, where anonymity hides someone’s vested interest or non-impartiality in the discussion.  Often multiple sockpuppets are used to create a dialog to promote an agenda.  Also some authors secretly write wonderful book reviews on their own books in order to deceive others into thinking that the review was made by an independent party.  A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer.

A story which had been recently told me, is that a Christian, using several sockpuppets, joined in an informal alliance with another commenter who claimed to be an agnostic and a former NSA insider.  Together they attempted to out a Contributor at what I will term The TrashBin, by making baseless accusations that the Contributor was in fact an important person in the “Christian” Alternative Media hierarchy.  When I first heard about this, I countered with the Puppeteer, who I know, that this particular person under accusation, had never to my knowledge used a false name; and they would never have to, as they are publically quite bold in confronting their adversaries.  Well after a while,  the Contributor closed their account, and these collaborators rejoiced.  Then one day the Christian puppeteer claimed that through their sockpuppet witness and prayer, that the agnostic had reached an emotional lowpoint and was now reading the book of Genesis.  The puppeteer boasted of being a mole, and listed a number of their sockpuppet names, and said that the NSA insider had been greatly impressed by their skill.  Really?

So I read some of the former-NSA Insider’s comments and noted that this person had contributed 5 posts beginning around the time he was promoting his Kindle Book of his NSA experiences.  I bookmarked the most interesting post, which was a repost of an article written by someone else on identifying disinformation techniques.  A few days later, I went back, and lo and behold, the article had vanished.  This person has a long resume posted on Linked In, which sounds impressive enough.  However, the photo of this person shows his face in a Trashbin.  You know, like Oscar the Grouch on Sesame Street who lives in a trash bin, hoarding useless items, and hating humanity.  If you were serious about getting another well-paying job in your field, or even getting individual contracts as a self-employed person, would you advertise yourself with such a photo?  There is a Credibility Issue going on here with Christian sockpuppets and “former” NSA Insiders, which defies logic.  Why should I take a Sockpuppet for Christ seriously?  Why should I take the alleged repentance of a self-proclaimed NSA Insider to heart, if they continue by their words and actions to mock serious things?

Throughout my own Christian history, I have repeatedly run into persons, who taking advantage of my friendly openness, end up undermining my own witness because of their unseemly conduct.  One of the things that I have always stressed to friend and foe alike, is that when push comes to shove, I am on God’s side, and let the chips fall where they may.  Romans 3:4 states this rule as “God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightiest be justified in thy sayings, and mightiest overcome when thou art judged”.  Several times I have had to warn people who are trying to undermine something which needs to be said, to get out of the crosshairs!

Thinking on the cowardly aspects of Sockpuppetry, causes me to appreciate the real life examples of persons who place their own lives in danger just to do their jobs properly.  I cannot imagine the courage it takes to be the first man in a SWAT team which enters a house of armed felons.  Not only does that man have to face the adversary, but they have to trust that the man behind them does not accidentally shoot them in the back.  In general, the “Christian” Alternative Media network and their followers have done much to undermine the courage and credibility of genuine Christians who are engaged in real spiritual warfare.  Perhaps some of their followers, who did not originally intend to partake in those sins, should reconsider their actions, and step aside, out of the Crosshairs.

The Gold Rush

Despite numerous warnings about the multi-level marketing scheme of the German company, Karatbars International, the self-proclaimed “Rebel With A Cause”, V the Guerilla Economist, is recommending that you join him in his latest gold venture. On October 15, 2015, on Revolution Radio we hear “V”  as radio host, joined by that other infamous Intelligence Insider “W”, and a third man who calls himself James The Russian Analyst. This latter guest is noted on RogueMoney.net as a “U.S. native Russian watcher for over ten years, former (temporary) Moscow resident, husband, Orthodox Christian layman, who likes Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn’s admonition Live not by lies!”  If that is his motto, what is he doing with a fake name like James the Russian Analyst, and why is he hanging out with two of the greatest fakes ever to grace The Hagmann and Hagmann Blogtalk radio show?Multi-Level-Marketing

V’s broadcast begins with blaring tinny music, and  we strain to hear a man’s voice trying to advertise a DVD for “creating your own food like I do”.  One hopes that this company paid nothing for their advertising spot, as we failed to understand what their spokesman was trying to say over the din. I still had not recovered from this experience when a gentleman gave some sort of introduction to the show saying “From the corrupt corridors of Wallstreet…. from gold… (What did you say? Do I need a hearing aid?)…came V the Guerilla Economist…he clears the fog of …disinfo…the Freedom Fighter, a Rebel with a Cause…”

Our radio host, V, ever unsure of his true identity, begins by referring to his listeners as Y’all as in Texas cowboy talk.  He can’t seem to break himself of this odd habit, and even asks himself out loud why he keeps saying Y’all, when supposedly he is in New York.   I lived 28 years in Texas, and believe me, V would not want to know what Texans really think of New Yorkers with a fake Texas twang.  Banker, Baker, Karatbars, carrotbars,  whatever; it is all the same to V as he juggles semantical accents and arguments all over the place to skirt the legalities of misrepresenting his credentials.  In the meantime on this same show, W is joking about living in a missile silo with a rosebush on top.  I think he means he used to go by the name of Rosebud. I am beginning to understand what a multi-level marketing scheme looks like.

If one types in Karatbars International into a search engine, one can read the words of this company describing their various gold products line.  One can also find all types of scam warnings given about this company, which are then countered by the loyal multi-tiered marketing representatives.  Probably the most authoritative warning comes from Quebec, Canada from  the Autorite’ Des Marche’s Financiers (AMF).  But let us take a look at what Karatbars has to say about itself.

Their webpage is very professional in design and summarizes their enterprise as “Karatbars International GmbH offers a wide range of products and options in the 999.9 fine gold market space.  Our core products are 1g, 2.5g, and 5 g minted 24 karat gold ingots from LBMA accredited refineries.  In addition to Karatbars classic core products, we offer collector cards for sports teams, professional athletes, and multinational charities.  Karatbars has a custom branding card program whereby anyone that qualifies may have the company produce one, or thousands of branding cards that meet the customer’s requirements.”  One can buy these products online as desired, and as always it is good to be a comparison shopper.

What we are discussing here in this post however, is their opportunity to join them in a multi-level marketing venture. And so we access their webpage which discusses the compensation plan.  I am glad that they confess that their compensation package is confusing and not easy to understand, as that is exactly how I found their explanation to be.  What I did understand is that there is the requirement to recruit other people who in turn recruit others, and these relationships affect your compensation. Now there is a lot of semantical nonsense going on in order to escape laws which govern illegal pyramid schemes. Somehow they have developed a system that has right and left legs; the left leg apparently being half as short as the right. If one desires to receive higher paybacks, all you have to do is pay more for your membership level.  I am unsure how long it takes on average to recover this initial cost.

One of the observations made about Karatbars is that they are quite a bit more expensive than buying gold from other well respected companies.  One example given said that in addition to the higher cost of Karatbars, there was also a shipping expense; whereas these other companies sometimes had free shipping.  Now the Karatbars marketing reps argue that you are buying a product, not an investment.  Why do they do this?  Well it is well known in the US gold coin business, which is virtually unregulated, that they sell coins to collectors. If these coins were to be marketed as an investment, a not very well marked line is crossed which might cause the seller to enter into the world of investment regulations and laws.

What does Karatbars International claim?  This company is fairly new, having been founded in 2011 in Stuttgart, Germany, by Harald Seiz, CEO.  He is seen on a video as saying that their company goal is to “bring families from around the world true independence and financial security”. We are shown 5 photos as follows: 1. Financial Liberty (photo of affectionate young couple), 2. Financial Independence (photo of large modern house), 3. Hedging in a Financial Crisis (photo shows gold bars), 4. A second mainstay income (photo shows nice car), and 5. a career or main profession (photo shows huge yacht). Then they state that whether full time or part time, “you can achieve your financial goals”.  Karatbars are not a product like carrotbars.  They are an investment, and Karatbars International say in their video, “No longer fear a financial crisis, currency devaluation or hyper inflation”.

The other marketing rep comment I heard is that Karatbars have been sold in 120 countries (the video I watched said 74, at the time).  But so what?  Very few countries outside of the US and Canada have made a good inroad into implementing consumer protection laws. And just because Karatbars International comply with German laws, does not mean that you might not end up breaking a few US laws if you start recruiting US citizens into your pyramidal type marketing venture.

One of the company statements on their website says, “All Karatbars 1 gram gold bars are 1. certified and laminated with UV protective film.  2.  Stamped with a valid trademark.”  Apparently they also sell an extremely expensive devise that can read the code on the bar to ascertain the authenticity of their product in order to deter someone trying to counterfeit their gold bars.  While reading up on the so called DNA system of authentication, my thoughts turned to a warning in the Bible in James 5:3, “Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat  your flesh as it were fire.  Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days”.  Since gold is the most inert, non-reactive of the metals, and never reacts with oxygen, one has to wonder why the Bible says that this particular gold rusts.  There are several metals which do rust, such as iron.

Wikipedia has an article on Pyrite, which begins, “the mineral pyrite, or iron pyrite, also known as fool’s gold, is an iron sulfide with the chemical formula FeS2.  This mineral’s metallic luster and pale brass-yellow hue give it a superficial resemblance to gold…the name pyrite is derived from a Greek word…”of fire” or “in fire”…pyrite is sometimes found in association with small quantities of gold.  Gold and arsenic occur as a coupled substitution in the pyrite structure..”fools gold

So the question must be asked, why are Karatbars laminated with a UV protective film?  My wedding and engagement rings are made of gold, and despite the fact that my hands over the last 31 years have been submersed in water on a daily basis, I have never noted any rust.  Personally, unless I could test the gold content of high priced bars and coins, I would prefer to have the unlaminated ones.  The day you have to laminate gold may be the day you should start wondering if someone is trying to stave off the  conditions which might reveal a bit of fool’s gold.  And while you are at it, ask yourself why V the Guerilla Economist, who was so highly promoted by Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann as being one of the highest level financial insiders, should have to stoop so low as to promote a pyramid marketing scheme?

UPDATE 11/19/2015  This morning I was contacted by a “Sicilian Mobsta”  who says that “V ain’t one of theirs”.  The latest guess is that he is from India.  Apparently this post has tested the mettle of V, and he is very worried about undergoing an authentication test,  and has covered himself in some kind of UV protected Laminate so as to avoid having his inner corruption exposed.

 

 

 

 

 

Squaring It Up

And the city lieth foursquare, and the  length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs.  The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.  And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.  Revelation 21:16-17

New Jerusalem

New Jerusalem

Back around 1999 I decided to make a square quilt based on Revelation 21, which describes New Jerusalem. The 12 foundations of the wall of the city are made from jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius,  chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprasus, jacinth and amethyst.  The first thing I had to do was go to the Denton County library to  study photos of these precious stones, and from there find a corresponding batik fabric which closely resembled each stone.  I could not locate a fabric for one of the stones, so I overlaid a sparkly silver translucent ribbon over a white fabric. Then I precisely cut out 144 one and a half inch squares, thirty six times. From there I began piecing and sewing the quilt based on a design layout of the order of the stones for the foundation walls.

Anyone who has tried to fit imperfect materials into a precise design, knows that the more edges there are, the greater the larger design will be off.  In quilting, once a standard quilt block is made, it must be “squared up” to form a perfect square, otherwise the whole design in the end will not lie perfectly flat. In my New Jerusalem  quilt, I had a lot of opportunity for deviation, and patience was required in trying to piece 144 small squares together to form a perfect 12 inch square.  What I had not reckoned on was that the ribbon-overlaid fabric, by being twice the thickness, was going to be trouble indeed.  By the time I created 36 larger squares, I had trouble squaring up each block, while I was also trying to have all the little squares line up  exactly.  The only solution was to connect the squares with each other using a half inch wide length of another  batik fabric that looked like light.  In the end, the quilt design looked like an overhead view of the Great Pyramid of Giza made out of the foundation stones of New Jerusalem.  It was beautiful, but it did not represent my original intention.

I am using this example to illustrate the necessity  in life to constantly “square up” thoughts and actions; otherwise the end result of small deviations will result in something highly out of order.  I was thinking of this particular quilt recently, as I was going through chapter after chapter of David Flynn’s Temple at the Center of Time: Newton’s Codex Finally Deciphered and the Year 2012.  I am not quite through the entire book yet.  It has been hard for me to want to continue because there are numerous problems with the soundness of the underlying thesis, which is exacerbated by the sloppy writing of the author.

When I first began this book, I was not expecting to find such a mess.  I had seen David Flynn’s website, and knew that many people enjoyed his lectures, and he always seemed to come across as a real nice guy.  This book does not appear to be the result of an act of love of the subject, but rather a gathering of notes which may have been categorized for a slide show. I have no idea if this is correct; I am just speculating here, trying to understand things.  It is as if someone had made notes for a high school research paper, using the technique of 3×5 cards, which had been cut and pasted together in accordance with  the chapter titles.  There is no effort on the part of the author to engage the reader, to guide and teach in a way that produces understanding, and the style of writing is notable for it’s lack of personality. And then of course, we have in hindsight, the fact that he was proven wrong on the “2012” aspect, which is what had been the primary selling point by Tom Horn’s Defender Books.  Incidentally, Tom Horn had also produced a 2012 book product called, Apollyon Rising 2012.

David Flynn fudged his way through his entire “thesis” which had to do with his version of the distance/time relationship between important historical dates and locations of cities as measured from the foundation stone of the Temple Mount at Jerusalem. It does not matter whether one is examining David Flynn’s mathematics, chronology, foot notes, or use of scriptures; he decidedly was imprecise, so that the reader could not ascertain the exact reasoning he was employing in order to “prove” his thesis.

Here are some words of flattery which were written about David Flynn in “A Note from Steven Quayle” found on page 213-14 of The David Flynn Collection.  At the top of this note, Quayle quotes Jonathan Swift as  saying, “When a true genius appears in this world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him”. Steve Quayle is amusingly consistent in his continual attempts to inhibit any real thinking on the part of other people.  But what do I care if this false man of God considers me a dunce?

Quayle’s first paragraph says, “David Flynn, like Isaac Newton before him, was a “GIANT” in the understanding of the God of Creations’ infinite majesty, power, and presence throughout the universe displayed. Every generation has its heaven-sent ‘Time Keepers’ to remind the world that we all have an appointed time and season of revelation and purpose to all that we see around us.  It is as if the Almighty God holds specific time locks to His Revelations and specific messengers tasked with bringing it forth.”

He continues, “Sir Isaac Newton stated, “IF I HAVE SEEN FURTHER THAN OTHERS, IT IS BY STANDING UPON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS”.  Steve Quayle seems to be always preoccupied by Giants.  Now normally we understand this to mean the giants in Genesis 6; but here he likens David Flynn to Sir Isaac Newton.  After reading Temple At the Center of Time, I personally consider this a great insult to the genius of Newton, whose laborious detailed study of mathematics and Bible Chronology among other things, was outstanding, foundational to modern thinking, and he produced very precise scholarly works.  David Flynn, by contrast, is no scholar, let alone a great one.  He has been singled out as he had some interests in Ufology, etc. from his teen years which he had communicated to others, therefore gaining a measure of notoriety in Montana years ago.

Mark Flynn writes in his introduction to the David Flynn Collection, “While he was writing Cydonia, Dave would email or call me and me about the latest portions he had completed.  It seemed as if every time we talked I would sense a marvelous explosion of light in my head.  One day he called and told me how Steven Quayle had called him and said, matter-of-factly, “God told me to get your book published.”  Dave said that he didn’t know who Steve was and didn’t tell anyone about the book, but at the same time, he wasn’t surprised that the Spirit would have instructed Steve in such a manner.  Dave often told me that the things he was writing weren’t a product of his own learning or intellect, but given to him by the Spirit.”

We see David Flynn’s name mentioned in an excerpt taken from a Tom Horn book which was referenced by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle on February 10, 2015 in their Setting the Record Straight: Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway.  At the end of this peculiar declaration it says, “To our listeners and readers, we submit to you that we are seeing exactly what author Tom Horn wrote about in book Blood on the Altar, where he writes about sinister demonic forces assaulting true Christian ministries. Excerpted from page 31.  “…just about every Bible Expositor I know has been tirelessly harassed online the last few years by fake defenders of the faith”.  “With that in mind, the next time you are online reading some diatribe about Chuck Missler, Gary Stearman, Steve Quayle, David Flynn, J. R. Church, L.A. Marzulli, Chris Putnam, Jonathan Cahn, yours truly, or any of the current favorite targets, ask yourself if the hatchet people attacking them ever bothered with scripture…”  “Be careful little eyes what you read,” because destructive forces seek to contaminate your mind and spirit (see Prov. 4:23-27) in order to prep you for service to the dark side”. There are three more paragraphs added, and this joint response concludes in red lettered words, Indeed, there is Blood on the Altar.

Now, I have no idea what is meant by this last sentence printed in blood red, but after comparing the assertions made in this document with the published responses by the two persons particularly targeted, it is clear that these self-proclaimed Watchmen sent by God are themselves liars, slanderers and from the dark side.

Now there are many persons who look up to Doug and Joe Hagmann, Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, the late David Flynn and others within their inner circle of trust.  Some of these people are sweet and naïve, some are deceived, and some know the truth about the ungodly and unrighteous actions and words of these men, and still they follow them.  One of the distinctives of the followers of this group is that they like usurping the prophetic offices of God.  They behave as if they are above the law of God and of the land,  and their looseness of doctrine has given rise to hubris.  Not one of these “anointed leaders”  seems to seriously consider that their thoughts and actions need to be squared with Scripture.

The other day I read a post on the Watchers’ Forum site, which is intimately connected with David Flynn’s website and his updated version of Renaissance “Christian occult style” theology.  After one member had quoted a questionable assertion made by the late David Flynn, I asked a question which seemed to overturn one of the tenets of this group, that willful ignorance is commendable in the sight of God.

This is what I asked:  ” ____, would you be so kind as to explain the mathematics behind your statement that Roswell is one of the few places on earth where the longitude divided by the latitude is almost exactly the mathematical PI?  If Longitude/Latitude = 3.14159, then  this can be shown as Longitude = 3.14159 x Latitude.  If we plug into Latitude any number greater than zero and less or equal to 57.2958, we get an infinite number of longitude points which range from a number greater than zero, to numbers less or equal to 180 degrees.  If we take advantage of the various combinations of the N-S-E-W designation of coordinates, we can easily plot the points generated from the above equation on any earth map, whether it is viewed in a 2-dimensional, or spherical layout.  Thus rather than there being few points which meet your criteria, there are an infinite number.  If I have misunderstood your statement, please clarify.”

All I did was try to square up David Flynn’s statement with the simplest of mathematical theories,  that Sir Isaac Newton would have endorsed. We are talking Middle School level math here.   The fact of the matter is this; the devoted followers of David Flynn are not interested in truth.  They do not follow the New Testament admonition in I Thessalonians 5:21  to Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   The fact is that I asked this question as a friend, for there are several members over at that forum which I like. But after a few more word exchanges, the moderator of the forum threatened to throw me out of the forum.

If one has not been squaring  every day thoughts and actions with scripture, by the time your life is done, it will be totally out of whack.  And what will you say when God asks you a simple question; instead of someone like me, who has needed God’s help in everything I do just to make it through this temporal journey?  David Flynn made a grievous error in trying to measure everything from a foundation stone of a temple which God himself destroyed.  It would be better to look carefully at the description of  New Jerusalem, and reread Isaiah 28:16-17, “Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation:  he that believeth shall not make haste.  Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet:  and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.”